Spain wins the European Cup!!

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Spain wins the European Cup!!

ESPAÑA!!! ESPAÑA!!!  ESPAÑA!!!  ESPAÑA!!!  ESPAÑA!!!

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Spain wins the European Cup!! | 26 comments (26 topical, 0 hidden)
Amazing (none / 0)

game, I loved every second of it! Glued to the screen I was!

Yo tengo mucho orgullo para la madre patria! !!!VIVA ESPAÑA!!!
 

Blog: http://perspectivos.blogspo t.com/

by Nick86 on 06/29/2008 06:00:04 PM EST

soccer is a girl sport (none / 1)
Who cares?

by KenTX on 06/29/2008 06:27:37 PM EST

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Maybe your wife would then? (none / 0)

Blog: http://perspectivos.blogspo t.com/

by Nick86 on 06/29/2008 06:30:04 PM EST

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Obviously not (none / 0)
Soccer can't be a girl sport; after scoring a goal, the player always lifts his jersey, clenches it in his teeth and runs around.  I don't think Ken would let his wife engage in that kind of risqué behavior.

by OneHitKill on 06/30/2008 06:07:21 AM EST

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One thing I hate about soccer (none / 0)

I don't care about soccer.  Don't hate it, just don't care.

One thing I do hate is when a guy scores a goal, chases the ball down, shoves it in his shirt and runs around like he is pregnant and finally gives birth to the soccer ball.

Don't get me wrong, their or a lot of celebrations in sports I can't stand but that is the worst.

Came to mind when y'all were talking about whether soccer was a girl or boy sport.  Boys acting like girls. 

by ProfRich on 06/30/2008 11:01:00 AM EST

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girls kick soccer balls (none / 1)
But no girl could tackle Earl Campbell. Rich, I'm on my bb. Please show them a youtube clip, so the euroweenies can see what a man looks like.

by KenTX on 06/30/2008 12:17:58 PM EST

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Dunno (none / 0)

Skill vs. Brute Force?

Any ape (aka Ken) could hit another animal, and feel proud of being able to stand on its two feet long enough to accomplish that feat...OR...it could have the beauty and skill of dancing with a ball coordinating all his senses to evade the other players and the goalie to make a beautiful and almost impossible goal.

Blog: http://perspectivos.blogspo t.com/

by Nick86 on 06/30/2008 08:14:35 PM EST

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Oh stop it, Nick (none / 0)

If you don't know anything about football don't insult it.  You just look foolish.

I am not going to attack soccer for not being a game of skill and no reasonable poster here is.  But to pretend football doesn't require grace, skill, balance, strategy, timing etc. etc. etc. is obviously ridiculous.  Have you ever seen a game?  And Ken is right, Earl had a grace and balance that was truly awe-inspiring.  Have you ever seen Barry Sanders, O.J. Simpson or Gayle Sayers run?

Hell, turn on your TV and take a gander at Vince Young this coming season.

Spend some time watching old clips of Rice or Largent.  Or Randy Moss these days.

Do you know who the Freak is and what he can do?

Can Manning and Brady's skill sets be defined as "hitting another animal"?  No decision making there, or finesse, or technique?  Please.

Even a good tackle has amazing footwork.  The Redskins kicker evidently kicked a field goal of 110 yards in practice the other day.  Just another guy "knocking over another animal" huh?

Truth be told, football requires most of the same skills soccer does PLUS many others.  I guess you do the ball handling with your hands instead of feet but feet are more important than hands in football too.  The big difference is in football there is a rigid division of labor, in soccer the division is much more fluid.

Look, Nick, you are a nice, bright, earnest young man but this is a joke.  And I know Ken was being a jerkoff about it but I am gonna give you piece of unsolicited advice.

If your only defense is "Ken was doing it too" you don't really have much of a defense at all. 

by ProfRich on 06/30/2008 11:55:01 PM EST

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Grain of salt... (none / 0)
I watch football (when the argos or alouettes play), the NFL bores me...the CFL is much better. I also watch soccer, I am not fanatical about either one mind you. Do I believe there is a qualitative difference btwn the two? Yes, soccer is more a sport of the intellect than the body. Football is the opposite for the most part, football gets repetitive and boring as the same plays go on and on. This sentiment is existent around the world except for North America, this is why American football will never be popularized outside of the US. Football is a sport of (ironically) the rich, while soccer is the sport of the people.

Soccer appeals to me for its intellectualism, populism, and unifying force.

Football appeals to me for its brutishness.

If you don't like that...too bad.

Blog: http://perspectivos.blogspo t.com/

by Nick86 on 07/01/2008 01:14:22 AM EST

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You can like what you want (none / 0)

 

Here is what I have to say about that.

"the NFL bores me"- Me too mostly.  I watch College Football which is all about the passion.  Pay attention to other people's posts.

"Do I believe there is a qualitative difference btween the two? Yes, soccer is more a sport of the intellect than the body. Football is the opposite for the most part"- You have no idea what you are talking about.  Football requires 11 guys on each side executing a series of complex tasks in perfect unison.  The level of planning, tactics and strategy involved is enormous.  The fact that you only see 22 guys hitting each other speaks volumes of your inability to understand the sport.  Soccer looks like a few guys running around while other guys stand there and do nothing.  It looks like, more or less, individual actors trying to succeed with maybe one or two teammates actively helping at any given time.  I am willing to give it the benefit of the doubt and assume there is a lot going on I don't see and understand because I am not a close-minded know-it-all.

"football gets repetitive and boring as the same plays go on and on."- I know the whole world loves soccer but watching a bunch of guys run around in circles for an hour and a half plus a random unstated amount of extra time waiting for one or two plays that actually matter when we all know the game is ultimately likely to be decided by an official, apparently randomly, giving someone a card for doing something that happens on every play and shortsiding one team is what Americans call boring.  Did you watch the last World Cup?  I did.  It was awful.  The flopping and the phantom yellow and red cards determined the whole tournament.  And the international press said that.  Not me.

 

"this is why American football will never be popularized outside of the US."- So?  It outsells hockey.  Does that mean hockey sucks?  Do you really think I care how many countries play a sport when I am watching it?  Does that increase your enjoyment of the sport?  Weird.

"US. Football is a sport of (ironically) the rich, while soccer is the sport of the people."- Not sure what you mean by this.  Understand I love College Football, not pro.  And I like high school too (coached it) and believe me, I wasn't coaching rich kids.


"Soccer appeals to me for its intellectualism, populism, and unifying force.

Football appeals to me for its brutishness."- Don't criticize what you can't understand - BD

So soccer is intellectual but the movements and decisions of the 22 players on a football field are random animal instinct.  I tell you what you get eleven of the most athletic soccer players you can find together and I will get a good small high school veer option team and lets see if you can stop them.  I know it won't happen but it would teach you so much you don't understand about football.

by ProfRich on 07/01/2008 10:42:01 AM EST

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I'm bored so l'll respond (none / 0)

I know that football has "plays" and playbooks that negotiate strategies to avoid the other teams defensive line. I would argue that the only intellectual aspect of football and grace involves the running back and the quarter back, that takes talent and strategy. The rest, including the receivers, do not have to be terribly intelligent to do what they do...avoid apes or destroy them. I am not insulting football, I like watching it too at times, it has its virtues, however in my opinion it really doesn't hold a candle to "soccer" or better known as futbol. Football gets boring because its interrupted so many times by the mere logic of the game, its so ridiculously labour intensive that I can't imagine myself playing it. Futbol is a game ANYONE can play, and anyone can imagine playing. To me, this is not merely an issue of the virtues of the actual game but who these games represent.

Football = rich, every American is rich even the poor kids you mentored by world standards. You need a certain level of nutrition, body mass, a oddly shaped ball that essentially can only be bought, and expensive equipment.

Futbal= the game of the masses, all you need is a ball, two feet, and a quick mind. The ball is an actual ball, meaning it can be made of just about anything, you don't need any equipment, and most important its more intellectual because it forces YOU to think and develop your own skills...not those found in a book.

Futbal > Football in my books...its not only a game its a way of life.

This is the  "know-it-all's" opinion and it has been written.  

Blog: http://perspectivos.blogspo t.com/

by Nick86 on 07/01/2008 12:50:33 PM EST

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All right Nick (none / 0)

We disagree.

I don't believe for a second it takes any more intellectual ability to play soccer than football.

I have played both and you, evidently, haven't.

Being an inside linebacker, cornerback, safety, center and many other positions are fairly cerebral.  Ironically, running back is not.

Beyond that, I think we are through here.

by ProfRich on 07/01/2008 01:58:30 PM EST

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runners (none / 0)
I've seen OJ run - run down a narrow walk way shrouded with shrubbery, blood dripping from his hands and shoes, into a white Ford Bronco.

by yturks on 07/01/2008 01:58:31 AM EST

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Say what you will about OJ as a runner... (none / 0)

But when he bolted in the 1990s he got away, didn't he?

The man still defines elusive!

Anyway, he's Jayar's problem.  I don't like USC at all.

by ProfRich on 07/01/2008 10:51:01 AM EST

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euh... (none / 0)
everyone except 300 million on the planet of 6 billion :)

by callisto on 06/30/2008 11:24:39 AM EST

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goooooaaaaaallllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!! (none / 0)
Who cares?

by KenTX on 06/30/2008 12:14:29 PM EST

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neurons not firing? (none / 0)
you reply to my answer to your comment, with the same comment?

limited arsenal of thought going on? :)

by callisto on 06/30/2008 02:57:14 PM EST

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beats womens golf (none / 0)
I need football season to come back.  I am going through sports withdrawls!  My options lately have consisted of golf, mid season baseball (is there any reason at all to watch between April and September?), women's tennis and Arena football.  I watched most of the tournament mainly because it beat out the other bad options, although when given the choice between it and men's tennis, tennis won out.

I have to admit watching Turkey play was fun!  The final itself unfortunatly was fairly boring.  A am glad Spain pulled it out though.

by alphasigmookie on 06/30/2008 12:06:12 PM EST

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Totally agree on sports (none / 0)

Got my 2008 Phil Steele Colleg Football.  In the process of reading every page.  Texas looks good but well short of great (I am predicting another 10-3 year but it could be worse.)

The really exciting news is we have a starting RB named Fozzy!!!! (Foswhitt Whittaker)  My wife asked if he was black.  He better be good because I liked our #2 guy last year, Vondrell.

by ProfRich on 06/30/2008 12:22:51 PM EST

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Sept 13th! (none / 0)
September 13th is the day I'm wating for...OSU vs USC in the coliseum!  I've got the USC ticket office bookmarked and check a few times a day.  The winner will probably get a chance to lose to the SEC champion in Miami. 

by alphasigmookie on 06/30/2008 05:35:08 PM EST

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The SEC looks STACKED (none / 0)

I like both OSU and USC this year (I don't really like either team but you know what I mean).

And speaking of teams I don't like but like to win it all, those damn Sooners are loaded everywhere.  Sonsabitches.

Texas has a tough row to hoe this year.  OU (Dal), at Mizz, Kan, at Tech and the rivalry against A&M!  Okie St looks decent too (though those poor bastards can't seem to beat us no matter how hard we try to lose!  Luckily Arkansas (in Austin) looks like they are gonna dropoff after losing two great backs. 

by ProfRich on 06/30/2008 09:08:38 PM EST

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Beanie for Heisman! (none / 0)
http://www.youtube.com/watc h?v=idzbqGlDdUo

I LOVE the stiff arm at ~2:16 in this video!  The buckeyes clearly would have had a better shot against LSU if they would have kept pounding it with beanie.  7+ yards a carry against the nations best defense the boy is a beast!  He is at least as good as Eddie George and probably on par with Adrian Peterson.  You just can't tackle him in the open feild!

Now if they can just get Boeckman to stop getting sacked and throwing stupid interceptions they might have another decent season. 

by alphasigmookie on 06/30/2008 06:16:04 PM EST

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I like Beanie (none / 0)

Kid can play no doubt.

Boeckman should be better as most of the line is back.  I hate to tell you this but the gap between the SEC and Big 10 in speed is real its just not what people think.  The difference is in big man speed. The Big 10 has no answer for the genetic freaks on the D-line the SEC puts out there.  Both OSU champs were lost becuase the SEC DL's just outquicked the OSU lines.  Its not the little fast guys that are the problem.  Its the big boys who can run a 4.6 that eat y'all alive! 

by ProfRich on 06/30/2008 09:11:46 PM EST

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Congrats (none / 0)
great to see the Spanish finally win again

after decades of being always a favorite, but never a winner, it's great so España win

have a great celebration

by callisto on 06/30/2008 11:26:10 AM EST

but the score was 1-0! (none / 0)
you'll be shocked to know, I WATCHED THIS GAME!

Yup, I sat down at a bar that had a high definition screen and I watched this game.  Everybody at the bar (this was in Chelsea, NYC) wanted Spain to win, apparently they hadn't won in 40 years or something...?  Also, like NOBODY was rooting for Germany, because they win alot?  Also, I dunno how the Spain guy scored that goal, he was practically MUGGED along the way....AND the german goalie was out of the box towards the end, when the ball touched his hands....

It was pretty cool, not as boring as I thought it would be, although I was swept up in the emotion of everybody else at the bar...and the shots of the fans in Madrid with the fireworks going off?  Way cool!

And lemme also add, the German coach didn't dress like a coach, with his white button down shirt & tight black pants....quite a cutie, as was many, many of the soccer players on both teams...and the head referree, well, he can give me a yellow card whenever he wants...

So, the Mets beat the Yankees yesterday AND I saw Spain beat Germany in the Final...not bad for a Sunday... 

by RNinNYC on 06/30/2008 02:45:44 PM EST

a new fan? (none / 0)
you discovered why a lot of women follow football: the footballers :)

also country against country tends to highten the atmosphere of watching

by callisto on 06/30/2008 03:07:35 PM EST

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