This Is One Time I Wish I Had Been Wrong

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When Hillary first started going negative, most Obama supporters (myself included) were pissed. We immediately suggested that it would hurt the party, and I and many others added that the words of the Clintons would be used against Obama in the general.

Clinton supporters dismissed our objections, and claimed an extended primary would be a good thing, and that there was nothing special about Hillary and Bill bashing Obama as the Republicans would do it in the general election anyway.


So who was right?

The judge just banged his gavel on this one

I guess the only question left is, should McCain send his thank-you card to just Hillary or should he include Bill too?
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McLame will have no surprises for Obama.  All of the shells have been used up by Hillary already.

by schmoab on 06/04/2008 12:26:07 PM EST


He just needs to use the words of the Clintons to bash Obama over the head.

I picture the millions of uninformed "moderates" out there who will see these ads and think "well Gosh, if Hillary is saying is those things and she's a Democrat..."

by ihavenobias on 06/04/2008 12:29:28 PM EST

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And don't tell me she didn't know that her *ss backwards, irresponsible comments were going to be used against the Democratic party. 

by rev24 on 06/04/2008 12:27:39 PM EST


well, I agree with schmoab that Obama will be ready for any attacks now that Hillary threw everything plus the kitchen sink at him, but you could hardly argue that the money Obama campaign has spent the past few months has been well spent in fighting another democrat that just refuses to leave the race despite her loss.  I do believe there is enough time to rectify things.  McCain's speech last night was so weak I couldn't believe it.  Let's see how he performs in a debate. 

by desertpear on 06/04/2008 12:51:20 PM EST


I'm picturing him wandering over to Obama's podium in a confused state a-la Peroe's running mate in 1992. 

by jawill11 on 06/04/2008 04:07:46 PM EST

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Both campaigns will be on the attack.  Of course the GOP will use Hillary's words. No doubt.  Just like we are going to use McCain's own words in fawning over Bush and his policies, and now trying to revive the "maverick" mask.  So it's going to come down to whose attacks are more effective.  The longer people have to see Obama, listen to his ideas, the less they will be concerned about his "inexperience".&n bsp; But how does McBush distance himself from his problems? 

It's another day in paradise...

by happyhominid on 06/04/2008 01:35:16 PM EST


Between using McCain's words and using a very respected Republican's words with the stature of Clinton to bash McCain and praise Obama.

Hillary's tactics were and are damaging. We'll ultimately see just how damaging, but no one can argue that the extended primary process was a net positive at this point.

by ihavenobias on 06/04/2008 04:15:54 PM EST

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I guess they can still fall back on that "increased voter turnout" thing to say that the extended primary was a positive.  "Look at how many energized new people were brought into the process" and such, even though most of the "new people" are young Obama supporters. 

Can't wait to see what some of the more die-hard people will have to say.  I suspect the crickets will be pretty damn loud.

by Spencer on 06/04/2008 09:02:24 PM EST


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