Why Dems Cave in.

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Bill Clinton.  Pure and simple.  Because he was SUCCESSFUL.

Bill Clinton was a TRUE CENTRIST.  His core princilples were neither Left or Right.  He was, at heart, something at the CORE of American values, a PRAGMATIST.

He sensed that the old 70s-80s Democrat, Liberal values were LOSING as Mondale and Dukakis had had their asses handed to them.  The Cons had won the argument.

Bill decided the best way to win the Presidency was to present himself as a Conservative Lite™, but without the Ideology that would lead to Conservative EXTREMISM.  It was to be Conservatism done the RIGHT WAY.

Much as NIXON looked upon a WAY Liberal electorate in 1968 and presented himself as a MODERATING FORCE.  Nixon famously said, "We are all Keynesians now."  Bill Clinton might as well have said, "We are all Reaganites now," conceding Supply-Side economics as FACT.

That won him reelection, the first time a Democrat won the presidency TWICE since 1936.  SIXTY FREAKING YEARS.  WINNING, that's a POWERFUL DRUG,  of which every Democrat since Bill wants a TASTE .

Bill laid down a TRAP for all future Democrats. Play to the "Center" = WIN.  It's what cost GORE and KERRY the Presidency.  GORE and KERRY had to play by Bill's RULES.  They had clear Left voting records that they had to DOWNPLAY, to be FAUX-MODERATES in order to win. 

Mondale and Dukakis went down in flames being running as (albeit Centrist) Liberals.  Clearly the only way to win was to play Halvsies with the Cons.  While Bill was a True Centrist, Gore and Kerry had to PRETEND to be Centrists.  And the argument was UNDENIABLE.  Given the choice between a Faux-Conservative and an ACTUAL Conservative, why not vote for the True Conservative???

Then the Cons went WILD under Dubya.  They showed the EXACT same ARROGANCE that the Congressional Democrats did in the 70s, when they saw the Solution to every Problem was throwing MONEY everywhere.  They got COCKY.  They thought the American public would vote for them FOREVER.

They tossed the core Con philosophy of Limited Government and Fiscal Restraint under the Bus and let Dubya become the first King of America.  A philosophy only the 25% of Hard-Core Cons agree with.

Why Dems would have anything to do with this bewilders the mind.  Yet, they still believe that playing Halvsies with CHENEY makes sense.  The only key to VICTORY. 

Dubya pretty much CONCEDED the GREATEST point of Conservatism to the Democrats.  Reagan and Dubya EXPLODED the Deficit.  Clinton Balanced the Budget and had it on track to NEGATE the entire National Debt.  Dubya handed the Democrats the Issue of Fiuscal Responsibility, a CORE Centrist Issue. And the Democrats didn't bite.

Playing Halvsies with Cheney and the EXTREME Neo-Con A*holes will get you NOWHERE fast.  Doing it wuth the serious Hard-Core Cons, the Bob Barr Republicans, who believe in Limited Government and Civil Liberties will get you EVERYWHERE.  A LANDSLIDE victory in 2008 and 2012. 

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I think there is a lot to what this post says, and I agree with the main premise, though I still ask, what exactly did Al Gore do that was a move to the center?

I think there is this narrative that all Democrats move to the center, and it has happened a lot, but is it true?

Could someone give me an example? It might be out there and I'm not remembering it, or I didn't think of it in those terms.

I am willing to listen, but I want concrete examples.

by jrolsen on 07/10/2008 11:10:20 AM EST


This is why so many politicians try to run to the middle in an election.  Do you think that Bush would have been elected the first time if he told us what he was REALLY going to do when he got into office? No.  He lied and pretended to be a "compassionate conservate" ie, a moderate with some rightist tendancies. 

Where conservatives got the upper hand was in branding liberalism as extremist.  It took hold because of the upheaval of the 60s.  And the conservative were able to ride that horse for a long long time.  They were able to play into America's fear of extremes.

But now things are different.  It's STUPID for Obama to play centrist now because there is an emerging consensus that it is CONSERVATISM that is the extreme position.  I've heard nothing in the primaries that Obama said that could be construed as extreme.  Moving right only makes Obama look weak for changing perfectly reasonable positions in order to look less extreme. 

by blueheartinaredstate on 07/10/2008 07:24:03 PM EST


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