Gulp! Uh oh...Obama may regret saying that...

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I'm watching live. Obama is talking about bringing down walls around the world; rich and poor, Christian, Muslims, and Jewish...

It is obvious that the whole wall coming down thing is a vast metaphor, and those types of examples continued for a couple of minutes, but I guaran-damn-tee you that these words will be the Big Talking Points because of the real life walls built by Israel and is sure to raise the hackles of the Mexican wall enthusiasts.


Damn, he's GOOD at this. It sure is refreshing to see a crowd gather around an American flag overseas and it's not in flames.

Ooohhh...."Burma" instead of "Myanmar." Had to be on purpose...

Wow. An American telling the WORLD that EVERYONE needs to take responsibility for actions and live up to the types of American ideals that the Bush administration has so cavalierly thrown aside(my paraphrase). And there is thunderous applause. How isolationist, huh?

Somebody check Chris Matthew's leg tingles so we can judge how good a speech it was...

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Color me impressed (none / 0)

That was a great speech. I just wish that the emotion and enthusiasm of moments like this would continue after elections and throughout the years.

We are all responsible all the time. 

Nice observation on the Burma/Myanmar thing. I always call it Burma, so the signifgance escaped me. 

by Andrew Koenig on 07/24/2008 02:03:45 PM EST

Watch for this (none / 0)

Thanks CSPAN feed!

As Obama makes his way through the throng, shaking babies and kissing hands*, he emerges into an open area and Brian Williams attaches himself and has an exclusive, just after the speech, walk along interview for a couple of minutes.

This will not go over well in Medialand. It provides a two day distraction for an industry that would rather talk about their own internal feuds than provide actual news coverage or in depth analysis.

Hope I'm wrong... 





*It's a joke.

by MedfordTim on 07/24/2008 02:09:08 PM EST

True story: (none / 0)
I had to read that 4 times before I actually SAW the joke.

What does this mean for my fabulous Notre Dame education?

by jarett on 07/25/2008 03:53:52 AM EST

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The Wall thing (none / 0)

They can try to run that lame Israel argument but it won't get any traction.

As for the Mexico aspect.  Let me propose a pet theory.  If it does get the anti-immigrant forces riled up, that would be awesome!

Here is how the immigration issue works.  There are two main types of people who see it as a potential voting issue: xenophobic, nativist, racist nutjobs and Mexicans.  The first group ain't voting for a black Democratic Senator who is soft on immigration.  That block is already firmly in the McCain column and its not moving.

But the Mexicans?  That is a different story.  The GOP, thanks to Tom Tancredo, managed to convince Mexicans that the party hates them.  McCain (and Bush) have spent two years desperately trying to pretend that didn't happen. 

If Fox News or Lou Dobbs or Pat Buchanan want to drive the profile of this issue up three months before a presidential election where McCain is in desperate need of winning AZ, NV, CO, NM and TX then I say have at it hoss.

by ProfRich on 07/24/2008 02:37:21 PM EST

that's how dems think (none / 0)
If 12 million illegal aliens disappeared tomorrow, there would be a lot of jobs available for Democrats. But all they can think about is short term victory.

by KenTX on 07/24/2008 03:10:43 PM EST

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KKK mentality (none / 0)
Rest assured, Ken, no one, and I mean no one will ever accuse you of being the sensitive touchy-feely type. Leave that to us liberal jerk offs, right? "Disappeared" really nice choice of vocab dude, really really nice. Oh I'm sure you'd have no problem if they were rounded up in the middle of the night and "disappeared" maybe into some form of out of sight out of mind prison camps? We could maybe put barbed wire around them but keep them out of the way, and put up red cross symbols around them and spread the word in the press that they are actually hospitals. Part of the KenTX Cheney eugenics program maybe. I got it though, I'm with the program now, long term thinking, really you're a brilliant and misunderstood iconoclast thinker, an outside the box genius. I mean why just stop at Mexicans. We've got to clean up America for Americans (read, in KenTX lingo, white, anglo, wealthy, protestant, hell but why stop there, six foot tall, Texan, crew cut, pro-military, college educated, what else). We've got to weed out the unmentionables, the weak, but Ken I don't think you've gone far enough, why not just get rid of the Democrats, then it wouldn't be an issue to begin with?

"Disappeared" you kill me Ken. Honestly, be a man and admit it, you could give a fuck if the so-called illegals were all round up in the middle of the night and put in prison camps. You'd probably enjoy it. Hell you'd prolly volunteer to do it yourself.

But I'm with ya brother, we've got to think long term about the problem. Personally, the only problem I find with the great U S of A is know-it-all assholes like yourself and your moral majority republican revolution the south shall rise again war mongering fear tactic NRA KKK mentality. It ain't even a mentality, it is just plain mental.

But thanks for the advice, mighty "white" of ya brother. I'm sure that the Democratic Party will take it under advisement. "Disappeared" man you are one crazy mofo Ken.

by tiggerporn on 07/24/2008 09:25:03 PM EST

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There is a 3rd group Rich (none / 0)
I'm part of that 3rd group. I'm not a xenophobic racist nutjob and last time I checked I'm not Mexican (then again, who knows!).

The issue of undocumented workers is not that high on my list, but I do think it's an issue. The double whammy of insourcing and outsourcing HAVE driven down wages and benefits for Americans, period.


Are ALL of the effects negative? No, of course not. But our trade and immigration policies need serious reform, and I blame the politicians and corporations, not the people looking to make an honest living.

by ihavenobias on 07/24/2008 06:26:28 PM EST

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Poll question (none / 0)
Will a candidates stance on immigration determinene your vote?

by ProfRich on 07/24/2008 11:16:31 PM EST

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Alan Keyes (none / 0)
You know I'm voting for Keyes, right?

by ihavenobias on 07/24/2008 11:56:21 PM EST

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yes (none / 0)
I have a litmus test. Any McCain candidate that agrees with Tom Tancredo fails. Even if he also disagrees on the same issue.

by hazmat on 07/25/2008 02:54:09 AM EST

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As a matter of fact, Yes it will... (none / 0)
Guess my choices are Bob Barr or Sheriff Joe Arpaio, because neither McLame or the Messiah are right on Immigration!

by bobo1 on 07/25/2008 01:37:36 PM EST

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Burma (none / 0)

Calling the country Burma was likely on purpose, as a means of not recognizing the military junta that took power.

From wiki:

The renaming proved to be politically controversial on several grounds. Opposition groups continue to use the name "Burma", since they do not recognize the legitimacy of the ruling military government nor its authority to rename the country in English. Various non-Bamar ethnic groups choose to not recognize the name because the term Myanmah has historically been used as a label for the majority ethnic group rather than for the country.

Various world entities have chosen to accept or reject the name change. The United Nations accepts the name Myanmar, since the UN allows its members states to be known by any name they choose. However it has not been recognized by many Western governments such as the United States, Australia, Canada or the United Kingdom, which continue to use "Burma", while the European Union uses "Burma/Myanmar" as an alternative.

 

by desertpear on 07/24/2008 05:38:55 PM EST

Of course it was intentional. (none / 0)
But it was nice all the same. Shows that someone on his staff is paying a modicum of attention to the disaster going on over there. And for that, and all the other casues mentiontioned, I am grateful.

by Andrew Koenig on 07/24/2008 08:18:59 PM EST

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