The Young Turks

a heritage foundation brochure. how did you land here? You have two posts, which makes you a sock puppet or worse. Why bother with this blizzard of worthless and unrelated talking points? Do you have anything interesting to say? no?<Slap!>

Speak dammit !! <Slap!> Speeeaaaak!!!

I think this guy is one of those jerk offs trying to get McCain.com points so he can get his free hand drill.

Looks canned and cut and pasted.

I like how you establish that a massive tax increase increased revenue and put the government in the black, therefore destroying your own first post about how we must have tax cuts to fix the economy.

The rest of this is just a very, very strange way to view the last seven years which seems to mostly involve ignoring the first six of them.

Seriously dude, if you want to troll, hop on over to the Stephanie Miller or Lionel boards and work on your chops.  Get a little double and triple A work in before jumping straight to the majors.

Finally you got the boring talking points out of your system long enough to blame the malfeasance of Bush and his conservative republican congress on the democratic congress. The irony of calling these republicans "liberal" is almost too much. So, what, you're going to vote for more of'em? You kill me dude! By the way using "Democrat" instead of "Democratic" makes you look like an ass. You're either ignorant or rude.

This business of calling the current republicans is a new one. Most conservatives I talk to these days won't admit to being republican, they either say they've had an epiphany and turned to libertarianism or that they're not voting because neither party has america's interests at heart.

How convenient. And all this talk about "liberal" republicans now overspending. Excuse me? Wasn't it Grover Norquist that said the agenda was to overspend until we had no choice but to cut entitlements? Does this quote sound familiar:

 "My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years," he says, "to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."?

The conservative republicans got exactly what they wanted. We are living the conservative agenda. What's wrong, aren't you happy with it?

The whole laundry list of talking points. Some aren't even current. Nothing that is even interesting.

Let me show you how this works.

You want to talk about flip flopper's? 

" Oh, by the way, I believe we should stay in Iraq until our mission is complete.  I support McCain on this position."

Not really up to him. Now is it? The word is that you are not supposed to mention that one anymore because Al Maliki is thinking about throwing us out anyway. Didn't you get the memo?

Tell you what. Turn off Sean, go read something and come with some facts. Even Ken's you tube links are better then this.

Why don't you start by looking back over some old threads.

One thing you will see is that pretty much everything you have said has been dealt with and dispatched here already.

The second you will find is that no one here is going to back down from a fight over politics with you.  Just try bringing up something relevant that we haven't already posted on 1,000 times each.

As for what I want to debate?  What I want to debate is why conservatives are protecting the contractors in Iraq, claiming they are beholden to no laws (Iraqi, US or international)  and therefore insisting they have the legal right to brutally rape and often kill American women (including U.S. soldiers).

I contend that contractors should be held to legal standards and their should be investigations of the serious rape charges. 

I contend further that there should be a Truman Commission to investigate war profiteering and fraud (like the KBR wiring they have been paid tens of millions of dollars for that is killing an average of two soldiers a month in accidental electrocution) and those found guilty should be held accountable to the furthest extent of the law.

The Republicans are adamantly against any of this.

You're up.

I await your response.

Lets see:

FISA-unfortunate and regretful but it was a trap so I get it.

Iraq- no such flip flop exists.  In fact, Bush flip-flopped to Obama's position.  Proud of Obama's Iraq stance.

Flag pin- not an actual issue so don't care.

Drilling- We'll see how this plays out.

What do you think about McCain's flip-flops on:

Bush Tax Cuts, Torture (against his own bill), Campaign Finance (i.e. violating his own reform bill), Iraq, Iraq again, Iran and Diplomacy, Tire Gauges, Insurance Companies and Birth Control, Immigration (again, against his own bill), Dirty Campaigning, Supporting Bush, Supporting Rove, MLK Day, corruption, Environmentalism, which woman he loved and being an honest person in general.

What did I forget, guys?

Look, Kozlo, Sean may be dreamy and all but he is an idiot and, whatsmore, he is lying to you.  I have never seen a politician who has changed his stance more out of political convenience than John McCain.