the Obama Nation

has anyone noticed that the book's title is a play on words?

 

Obama Nation - abomination 

 

just think about it...

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Watching you talk to yourself Ken.

by desertpear on 08/14/2008 09:32:13 PM EST

if he's the Messiah shouldn't you drop on your knees, you infidel :)

this guy is too dumb for words

by callisto on 08/14/2008 09:46:55 PM EST

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what makes you able to distinguish between a fake and real Messiah

can't believe I'm talking about something that doesn't exist

by callisto on 08/14/2008 09:52:06 PM EST

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when you repugs call him a messiah, it isn't meant to be funny, there's a negative reason behind it, whether you believe in all that hocus pocus or not

it's unfunded smear nothing else

how long before you'll start calling him the anti-christ???

by callisto on 08/14/2008 10:06:49 PM EST

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Cally, have you ever heard of SARCASM?  

What Kozlo has just demonstrated is a tried-and-true strategy of internet low-lifes. I call it the Clumsy Retraction Escape Maneuver (CREM).

by OneHitKill on 08/14/2008 10:14:45 PM EST

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so true, so true

by callisto on 08/15/2008 06:22:16 AM EST

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Write like a third grader.  Get lost.

by desertpear on 08/14/2008 09:53:50 PM EST

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you should talk, I've seen your comments

still wondering, whether you ment "truth" or "turd" in another thread

by callisto on 08/14/2008 09:54:12 PM EST

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if you would do something else than stating Repug talking points

also for you to misuse, whether you actually are a veteran or not, the status of veteran as something that gives you immunity to criticism and gives you the right to speak for veterans in general is LOW

by callisto on 08/14/2008 10:04:54 PM EST

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So along with being illiterate, you can't do arithmetic either?

by ProfRich on 08/15/2008 12:08:12 AM EST

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again trying to claim supreme status on a subject, what was the last thing you claimed to be better at then anyone else, ah yes energy that's right

wondering if you actually believe all the things you say about yourself or are just full of it

by callisto on 08/15/2008 06:24:49 AM EST

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you're shifting again, my point was that you seem to be stating from time to time that you are THE authority on a subject

so should I start calling you names also now? Should I mix in some insults in non English, I can call you bad names in a bunch of languages :)

I know, I know, so can you: English, Texan and some Spanish you saw on TV :)

you give a weenie, I give you a wanker and a twat (those are in English English btw)

by callisto on 08/15/2008 07:46:56 AM EST

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Despite the apparent root word "anal," the word "analyze" doesn't mean "to pull numbers out of one's ass," which is exactly what you're good at.

by OneHitKill on 08/15/2008 07:54:24 AM EST

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are you going to plug that book, that has already been prooved to be full of mistakes

maybe you don't work for the GOP, just for the publishers

by callisto on 08/14/2008 09:39:25 PM EST

you are going to do what you don't want to do in other threads: answer people's serious comments

let's get one thing straight: sources that contain the words Fox News, do not count

by callisto on 08/14/2008 09:58:34 PM EST

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We'll make an honest man (?) out of this punk yet.

by OneHitKill on 08/14/2008 10:02:51 PM EST

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I just realized that my subject line was misleading.  Note that it reads, "Stay on Kozlo," NOT "Stay on, Kozlo."  Kozlo is the object of the sentence, not the addressee.

by OneHitKill on 08/14/2008 10:10:09 PM EST

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It sure feels like we are debating a sock puppet.  That is the reason for my curses.

by desertpear on 08/14/2008 10:12:50 PM EST

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I thought maybe we could positively impact the life of a young, misguided internet bottomfeeder.  What can I say?  I'm an idealist.

by OneHitKill on 08/14/2008 10:17:18 PM EST

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neo-con means war criminal or fascist right?

by callisto on 08/15/2008 08:01:19 PM EST

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"The neo-conservatism of the 1980s is a replay of the New Conservatism of the 1950s, which was itself a replay of the New Era philosophy of the 1920s" Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.

Let’s see Neoconservative….New Conservative…..New Era….all the same scam just repackaged.

In order to understand Neoconservative we have to understand its roots which was the New Era philosophy of the 1920’s. An era of free wheeling consumerism that gave us The Teapot Dome Scandal (the first oil scandal of note) and origins of the “single bid contract”, the rise of the power of the Ku Klux Klan, Saw the Federal Government use the Red Scare to practice the repression of Civil Rights with the Sedition Act, gave us Prohibition, (what a great success that was), and oversaw the collapse of the middle class system to allow the extreme wealthy to accumulate more wealth while the average American suffered during the Great Depression which was set up by the Laissez-faire policies of non regulation that Conservatives advocate.

Now that I think about it maybe I don’t understand what a Neo-Con is. I am pretty sure it has something to do with Cons trying to Con.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 08/16/2008 09:17:34 AM EST

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People have no understanding of how awful the 20s were for the non-rich.

by ProfRich on 08/16/2008 11:08:36 AM EST

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They'll have to come up with a new name for themselves after this election won't they?  The brand has become a little tarnished. 

Anyone who has an incredibly frugal grandmother or mother can still feel the influence of the Depression.  My mom has never recovered!!

by desertpear on 08/16/2008 01:43:16 PM EST

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I already named your penis for our mutual friend, tiny. You seemed "happy" with it at the time.

by hazmat on 08/15/2008 11:27:33 AM EST

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Mein Kampf was also a bestseller

by callisto on 08/14/2008 09:40:14 PM EST

Why does anyone even respond to Kozlo? His posts are obviously jokes, aren't funny, and don't even lead to a humorous conversation.

Don't talk about religion or politics, my ass!

by TheRob91 on 08/14/2008 10:20:55 PM EST

I can't help it.  I'm a teacher.  When I stumble across some poor soul in such dire need of education as Kozlo, my involuntary teaching response kicks in.  And it won't let up until Kozlo graduates*.

 

*leaves

by OneHitKill on 08/14/2008 10:27:07 PM EST

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you cannot have any of these lies lay around uncountered, they might become truth if no one counters them

that's why Obama and Dems need to counter every single, even if it's tiny, lie or mistatement that the GOP or McCain does, inundate the press with press releases about McCain mistakes

by callisto on 08/15/2008 06:27:53 AM EST

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But did anyone notice this article I posted awhile ago (notice the name Jerome Corsi in there)?  I bet it's only a matter of time before we learn that all of this book's sales are bullshit as well.

by Spencer on 08/15/2008 01:04:48 AM EST

"As promised, Barack Obama's campaign is hitting back hard against smear author Jerome Corsi's New York Times best-selling book The Obama Nation.

In an exhaustive 41-page PDF document entitled Unfit for Publication -- a riff on Corsi's 2004 Unfit for Command, which targeted John Kerry -- the campaign documents every false claim they have been able to find in Corsi's current tome. No matter how small the error, including the year the Obamas married, the campaign has taken time to correct the record.

Clearly, the cumulative effect is meant as a kind of rhetorical "shock and awe" campaign against Corsi, who is described in the prelude of Unfit for Publication as "a discredited, fringe bigot" who "believes that President Bush is trying to merge the United states with Mexico and Canada," in addition to holding other conspiracy theories.

"Corsi has penned a litany of bigoted, hateful comments-- crossing the line so thoroughly that even the right-wing operatives behind Swift Boat Veterans for Truth disavowed him. This is a man who smears the Catholic Church, calls the Pope 'senile,' and regularly demeans public servants in vile sexual and racial terms," the document reads. "In short, his record of attacks is disgusting and false, and so is this book."

And then comes the table of contents.

Overall, the response memo was produced in a comprehensively media-savvy style meant to inspire more critical coverage of Corsi's book, and perhaps a few giggles at the author's expense, as well. The document's satirical cover carries a seal next to Corsi' picture that reads: "Brought To You By Bush/Cheney Attack Machine," and a quote from Joe Klein's Time.com blog post calling The Obama Nation "poisonous crap."

As for the content of the Obama camp's rebuttals, they also appear comprehensive. After a short section excerpting Corsi's bad reviews thus far, the bulk of the document is a section dedicated to the book's falsehoods. And the inaccuracies in Corsi's book appear vast indeed, from the small and quotidian to the large and substantive.

Apparently, Corsi got next to everything wrong about Obama's own books, Dreams from My Father and The Audacity of Hope. Whereas Obama Nation claims that "Nowhere in the autobiography does Obama disclose that his wife-to-be accompanied him to Africa on the 1992 trip," the Obama response lays out the actual passage in full

"After our engagement, I took Michelle to Kenya to meet the other half of my family. She was an immediate success there as well, in part because the number of Luo words in her vocabulary very soon surpassed mine. We had a fine time in Alego, helping Auma on a film project of hers, listening to more of Granny's stories, meeting relatives I'd missed the first time around."

Elsewhere in Corsi's book, he writes that "Obama failed to discuss his father's alcoholism and polygamy in his autobiography," despite the passage from Obama's book that reads:

"He would come home very late, drunk, and I could hear him shouting at Ruth, telling her to
cook him food. ... Then he would stagger in drunk and come into my room and wake me because he wanted company or something to eat. He would talk about how unhappy he was and how he had been betrayed."

For what it's worth, Corsi also falsely claims that Obama did not dedicate Dreams to his family, despite the dedication page that reads: "It is to my family, though -- my mother, my grandparents, my siblings, stretched across oceans and continents -- that I owe the deepest gratitude and to whom I dedicated this book. Without their constant love and support, without their willingness to let me sing their song and their toleration of the occasional wrong note, I could never have hoped to finish. If nothing else, I hope that the love and respect I feel for them shines through on every page."

As for politics, Corsi repeatedly distorts Obama's actions and positions -- at one point accusing him of meddling in Kenyan politics after U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice asked him to tape a radio message for broadcast there. Corsi's rhetorical suggestion that Obama's stance on Israel is "merely a matter of political convenience" meets with a page-and-a-half rebuttal in "Unfit for Publication," with statements from Obama going back to 2000. Corsi's suggestion that Obama approved of Louis Farrakhan's views is also rebutted with a 1995 article penned by Obama.

After 29 pages of this, the Obama campaign's response document turns again to the subject of Corsi and his "widely discredited beliefs." At one point, the document quotes a writer for the conservative website Human Events who said Corsi is not "any more worthy of being taken seriously than those who think Jews rule the world or the 'Truthers' who think President Bush is responsible for 9/11."

In providing all this oppo research to the media so quickly after the book's publication, the Obama campaign is clearly trying to avoid John Kerry's fate in 2004, when some media outlets reported in neutral fashion about the claims in Corsi's Unfit for Command for far too long. This time, at least, the Democrat can't be accused of holding back in the face of false attacks."

 http://www.huffington post.com/2008/08/14/obama-c ampaign-punches-ba_n_119031 .html

 

by Lib on 08/15/2008 05:14:29 PM EST

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