US non-whites will become majority by 2042

Email Print posted by OneHitKill 08/14/2008 05:06:38 AM EST

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Somebody call Acroso!  It's an emergency of RACIAL PROPORTIONS!

The white population of the US, which was once projected to stop being the majority in 2050, is now projected to fall to 46% of the total US population by 2042. 

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My own reaction, as you can probably guess, is nothing akin to the "OMG AZTLAN!" raving of our friend Acroso.  Rather, I find it appropriate that, after 200 years of big talk, the US can finally start to live up to its reputation as a melting pot.

In other somewhat related (and equally encouraging) news, a surprising one out of every thirty babies born in Japan in 2006 was born to at least one parent of non-Japanese descent.  This is also great news when you consider the similarities in attitude between present-day Japan and 1950's whitebread America.

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US non-whites will become majority by 2042 | 59 comments (59 topical, 0 hidden)
One out of thirty huh? (none / 0)

Sounds like you've been putting in work.*  Har har har...

And I would love to warn bobo about our impending minority boom so he could start cleaning his guns early, but when the source is something as disreputable as the BBC, I suspect he wouldn't believe me anyway.

 

* - Yes, I'm ashamed I made that shitty joke too. 

by Spencer on 08/14/2008 05:47:14 AM EST

Im actually looking forward to this... (none / 1)
Well, it will be too late for me, but when whites become the minorities, won't we be able to receive affirmative action? I want my grandkids to receive preferential treatment for jobs, college admissions, scholarships and the like! And they will EXPECT it because THEY are being oppressed... I want to be able to go down and throw myself around at the welfare office demanding my rights because I'm a minority! I want to shout "WHERES MY BUS TOKEN!!!!" Without having to worry about retrobution... I want to extort money from major corporations like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to live high on the hog without actually having to do anything for it - they better hire my kind OR ELSE!!! Yeah Spence, just keep it up - I'll be living the easy life while all the Hispanics realize what a crock of shit it has been for me the last 300 years! :)

by bobo1 on 08/14/2008 09:27:27 AM EST

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Pkease quit your job. (none / 0)

 

I worry for children who learn from you. You are so twisted in your hateful thinking that it MUST spill over.

by MedfordTim on 08/14/2008 09:34:58 AM EST

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My students know the truth... (none / 0)
And that is whats important. Its not hate, Tim, its the realization that others have been bilking the system for decades and its not fair. Hell, my students are gonna be the masters of the domain soon, so I better be good to them now, right? 

When Im the minority, I expect to have similar rights and benefits....

Dont hate on the messenger, Tim....

:)

by bobo1 on 08/14/2008 09:45:01 AM EST

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Not hate. Pity. (none / 0)

 

The fact that you think you are somehow oppressed or downtrodden because you are of Caucasian ancestry is the part that is sad.

Rather than cherish the things you DO have - a well paying job, health insurance, inside plumbing - you spend an inordinate amount of time bitching, moaning, whining, and complaining about darker skinned people getting existence level assistance, of which your contribution is minuscule at best.

I hate your message, not you. I feel sorry that you are so insecure that you don't believe enjoyment of life should be a universal concept - not one dependent on where one happens to be born. To you, five miles one way or the other decides how destitute a person's life should be.

You already have the same rights and benefits - just quit your job and have no income and YOU can live a life of luxury just like one of "them." Yes, you too can live seventeen people to a room and be in fear of any authority figure or ball cap wearing redneck who comes your way. Won't that be FUN??

by MedfordTim on 08/14/2008 10:49:14 AM EST

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blame (none / 1)
Dude, you need to step up and accept responsibility for your pain.  Blaming brown people for your problems is weak.  See a therapist and work through it.

by desertpear on 08/14/2008 04:10:34 PM EST

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Who said anything about blaming... (none / 0)
others for my problems?

I dont think I did

My problems are my own.

I was just saying that I cant wait till I get some of the affirmative action - Free college, Job preferences etc. Id like to see some of the free benefits to living here too...

Thats all

:)

by bobo1 on 08/14/2008 08:03:34 PM EST

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Dude, come on (none / 0)
It's such a lame comparison. African Americans in this country don't push for affirmative action because they are a smaller percentage of the population.

I mean, you don't really think that do you? Do you think THAT is the argument that people in favor of affirmative action put forward?

by ihavenobias on 08/14/2008 08:25:12 PM EST

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best stop waiting (none / 0)
How about pushing for universal health care instead?

by desertpear on 08/14/2008 08:29:04 PM EST

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last time i checked... (none / 0)
affirmative action doesn't mean you get free college tuition.  you have no idea what affirmative action is, and you are bitching about it.  small minded fellow.  you must be at a christian university, because at my institution, a mind like yours would've been exposed to these things we call facts...and as a minority, i will have you know i had to take out loans/work my way through school...so i must be missing these magical affirmative action checks...oh wait, that's not what affirmative action is...
chris

by chrisandyasemin on 08/23/2008 07:16:24 PM EST

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THE OTHERS (none / 1)

the realization that others have been bilking the system for decades and its not fair

(I bolded the extra-whiny parts of this Bobo quote.)

Your use of the word "others" is a tell.  You have some kind of unfocused frustration affecting your life, and for your failure to find the actual cause, you turn to minorities.  How many of your students are white?  Because if the ethnic build of your class is as fish-belly white as I think it is, they won't be masters of their domain after 2042.  Plus they'll have the added disadvantage of having been taught by you.

by OneHitKill on 08/14/2008 09:55:04 PM EST

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10 years from now (none / 0)
there will be spike of serial murders in the Phoenix area...it will be bobo's gift to the world.

by MRFred on 08/14/2008 11:02:56 AM EST

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Racial is the wrong word (none / 0)

There is 1 and only 1 human race, since the Neanderthals bought it.

Oh by the way. By 2150 we are statistically all gonna be light brown slant and brown eyed. This is of course based on the facts that the genes for blue eyes, red and blond hair...etc are recessive. fx. for a blue and brown eyed couple only 1 in 4 kids will inherit the blue eyes.

Some say that culture and behavior has a say here too, but in the end it will be trumphed by "Humans like to fuck a lot" side of it.

by whoosh on 08/14/2008 07:56:01 AM EST

It's not a big deal (none / 0)

This won't be very different for me.   I'm from an area where the people are an old mix of French, Spanish, African, and even some Lebanese and Syrian sprinkled liberally in the pot.

I like it.  One definite upside:  We have a lot of very pretty women here.  I had a friend from San Francisco who used to come here on business periodically.  It was always fun to take him to a couple of night clubs and watch his jaw drop when he saw all the pretty girls.  He was like a kid at Christmas time. 

by bfaul on 08/14/2008 11:39:10 AM EST

the only truth ever spoken by bfaul (none / 0)
"We have a lot of very pretty women here."

That's a massive understatement . Louisiana is filled to the brim with petite brunettes. That's why they call it a "Sportsman's Paradise".

by KenTX on 08/14/2008 10:37:28 PM EST

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What the future holds...according to the RNC (none / 0)

by MRFred on 08/14/2008 12:59:29 PM EST

Bring on the future!!! (none / 0)
Thanks for posting on this OneHit--I saw it in the news and hoped someone would.  Once our colors are mixed up, there will be less and less racially motivated hate and blame in this country.  My own extended family in the US and Switzerland now includes Brazilian, South Asian, American Indian, Hispanic, Japanese, and African-American blood through both marriage and adoption.  It's pretty tough to find a racist in the family anymore.

by desertpear on 08/14/2008 04:07:19 PM EST

I'm not worried about race (none / 0)
but I AM worried about overpopulation.

by ihavenobias on 08/14/2008 04:34:08 PM EST

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that's a separate topic (none / 0)
baby hater!  (just kidding of course)

by desertpear on 08/14/2008 04:38:03 PM EST

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I know you are (none / 0)
But I have to say, I'm not a baby hater, I'm a quality of life lover. :)

More and more and more people (regardless of color)=reduced quality of life after a certain point.

For anyone who wants to object, I insist that you drive on a city expressway during rush hour (the bigger the the city the better), or that you go to a large concert or outdoor festival.  Or go grocery shopping on Saturday or Sunday morning/afternoon, and finally, go to the DMV.

Birth control kicks ass. It should be free and readily and widely available. And people like this should be frowned upon.

Instead of "Glod bless, go forward" it should be "for Christ's sake, keep it in your damn pants for 10 seconds".

by ihavenobias on 08/14/2008 04:45:15 PM EST

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Quality of Life? (none / 0)

Put aside the population issue for now, I use to have a debate with a friend about whether poor people should have kids.  She would always say that it was completely irresponsible for mothers to be having kids if they could not support them.  Personally, I'm quite disturbed by this view and although not overtly racist, I would never dare tell someone whether they were capable or not of having a family.  So are we going say, if you don't make this much money you can't have kids?  Do you want to bring back forced sterilization?

In reference to this study and predicted 2042 numbers, I'm glad to see minorities have been getting it on - bone!

by rev24 on 08/14/2008 05:43:52 PM EST

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rich people (none / 0)
are the ones consuming more of the world's resources and causing more pollution.  Poor people have much less impact.  If you are spawning, have two, not a litter.

by desertpear on 08/14/2008 05:52:35 PM EST

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People have too much of a visceral reaction (none / 0)
I think it's tied to the throbbing biological urge to reproduce (the same urge that's damn near constantly reinforced by society).

At any rate, who's talking about forced sterilization? Not me. Although incentives for drug addicts to get something like Norplant seems reasonable, don't you think?

If you want my opinion, raising kids is not JUST about money. Everyone thinks they should have the right to pump out as many damn kids as they please, regardless of if they can take care of them. That means financially yes, but also emotionally.

Some minimum degree of money is critical of course, to provide for basic needs, but so is some basic degree of competence and emotional and practical maturity. Sadly many people only have one or neither.


What if a really irresponsible (or poor) person wanted to buy a puppy or a kitten? Would you generally (there are always exceptions of course) support the idea, knowing that either could very well end up in a shelter or euthanized due to the inability of the owner to properly care for it?

Well the stakes are much higher with a human. There is no euthanizing. Although far too many kids do end up dead from drugs, gangs and suicide.

by ihavenobias on 08/14/2008 05:58:55 PM EST

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C.R.A.C.K. is Wack! (none / 0)

put this in your pipe and smoke it

 What's next?

by rev24 on 08/14/2008 06:20:21 PM EST

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It sure is! (none / 0)
There's no good reason for anyone addicted to hard drugs (well, any drugs really, outside of caffeine maybe) to be considering kids until they've been clean and sober for a good amount of time.

They need to take care of themselves before they can even consider taking care of anyone else.

by ihavenobias on 08/14/2008 08:23:09 PM EST

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for the record (none / 0)
I was referring to Children Requiring a Caring Kommunity (CRACK).  I don't think offering women who have "substance and alcohol problems" $200 to get sterilized or put on long-term birth control is the solution.  It was good to see the Oakland and Los Angeles rip these signs down from their community.

by rev24 on 08/14/2008 10:29:52 PM EST

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Who said sterilized? (none / 0)
But what's wrong with voluntary Norplant? Isn't that a 5 year birth control implant?

People lose their license (temporarily for an extended period) if they have multiple DUI's, and for good reason.

Why shouldn't someone temporarily have their ability give birth suspended, until they get their shit together? Either way it's about not being able to fuck over someone else. It crosses the line from hurting yourself into hurting others.

by ihavenobias on 08/14/2008 10:45:59 PM EST

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How about sterilization? (none / 0)
Why don't we pay a $50,000 bonus to any person under 25 years of age who voluntarily undergoes a sterilization procedure? They can use the money to go to college, or whatever they want to do.

I call that a rare good use of federal money.

by KenTX on 08/14/2008 11:18:44 PM EST

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Carrots and Sticks? (none / 0)

I initially brought up sterilization aka tubal ligation as referenced in the above CRACK pic.  Until now we were talking about the carrot approach - voluntary birth control/sterilization for $ (which I still see to be wrong and manipulative), but now you seem to be bringing the sticks to the party with your comment "why shouldn't someone temporarily have their ability to give birth suspended." 

Unless someone commits a violent/sexual felony, I feel no one should be in the position to control someone's ability to procreate.  If someone is addicted to drugs, the person needs help not $200 bucks to get high.   Now in the process of receiving help, I don't have a problem with a person voluntarily making the decision to get on long-term birth control with the advice of a counselor just as long as it isn't a time share sales presentation/jehova witness in a prison scenario.

by rev24 on 08/15/2008 01:02:35 AM EST

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Is your objection (none / 0)
Logical or is it emotional and visceral? Be honest, and then answer these two questions:

What is the worst case scenario of someone temporarily not being able to have kids (still talking incentives here, it's voluntary suspension)?

What is the worst case scenario of someone having kids who is emotionally and or financially unprepared?

by ihavenobias on 08/15/2008 11:21:32 AM EST

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I will not Police the Vagina (none / 0)

I don't know why you think my response is emotional and visceral; it is logical.  Now again if I worked at a hospital where I witnessed drug addicts having babies, I just might have an emotional/visceral response.

In response to question #1 - someone hard up for money who isn't an addict/alcoholic goes in and gets put on long-term birth control.  I don't have the raw data in front of me, but I'd be curious to see the percentage of minorities who receive this procedure.  On an individual basis it might not see like a big deal, but on a whole, I think you might understand my uneasiness. 

#2 -  First, your wost case scenario linked article was really bad since there was no evidence that these babies were dumped from the same mom besides the fact that they were of the same race.  Maybe you were just trying to help me out with ideas, but either way I feel the worst case scenario would be for a mother who loves her kids though can't care for them financially, being forced to have them taken away by Child Protective Services.  Yes it might be best for the kids, but the pain of having your kids taken away must be devastating.  Yes, I'm also concerned with kids being raised in a neglectful environment, however, I feel this is what community is for to address the underlying problems that give rise to such cases.

by rev24 on 08/15/2008 02:26:29 PM EST

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Uh huh (none / 0)
Gangs, drugs, molestation and death are the worst case scenario.  Foster care? Man is that brutal.

Obviously there should be a comprehensive approach to improve the socioeconomic conditions that create so many unprepared mothers/fathers, but you know that and it's beyond the scope of this discussion.

And that baby in the garbage thing has happened a decent number of times. I'm not saying it's common by any means, more that it's a graphic illustration of a serious problem and it should never get to that point.

At any rate, if you're not going to po-lice the vagina, how can you expect anyone to po-lice that moo-stache?!

by ihavenobias on 08/15/2008 02:50:31 PM EST

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You realize (none / 0)
all these things that make up your quality of life were invented, harvested, manufactured, transported, regulated, inspected and sold to you by people.

by ProfRich on 08/14/2008 11:13:26 PM EST

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Sure (none / 0)
And many of the things that reduce my quality of life were invented, harvested, manufactured, transported, regulated, inspected and sold to me by people too.

Look, I'm not saying I dislike people (if I did I wouldn't have lived in the third largest city in America for 7 years and I wouldn't miss it so much now).

But like Pear said, ok, have a couple of kids (give or take), but why a litter? It's not the 1700's anymore. Most of us won't die from easily treatable diseases and infections, and most of us don't need 6 little ranch hands running around.

Would I pass laws here saying people can't have litters? No, of course not. But it doesn't mean I have to like it or root for it.

PS---People always take these issues too personally. If I say I'm not having kids people immediately take it to mean I dislike THEIR kids for some reason, and they get defensive. If I share my opinion that I don't see a need for people pumping out tons of kids (notice that tons of kids is not the same as 'any kids'), some people inevitably take it to mean that I'm judging them and THEIR kids.

by ihavenobias on 08/15/2008 12:51:20 AM EST

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Don't get me wrong (none / 0)

I could care less if you hate my kids.

And, ironically, I do pretty much hate people.

I was just saying.

by ProfRich on 08/15/2008 06:17:29 AM EST

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(sigh of relief) (none / 0)
Ok, good. Man those little shits of yours get on my nerves!

by ihavenobias on 08/15/2008 11:23:07 AM EST

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LOL (none / 0)

That aight.

If you had kids they would annoy me like everyone else does.

by ProfRich on 08/15/2008 12:18:34 PM EST

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Well (none / 0)
Little kids ARE often annoying, in public at least. I know good parents can go a long way toward preventing it, but even good parents can't 100% eliminate it.

Even a good kid can be a little loud and obnoxious at times.

As far as people go (to pick up on earlier), I'll again admit that when I go to movies and museums (etc.), the less people the better. I try to go on off days at off times when possible. There's nothing worse than trying to enjoy something while fighting loud, pushy crowds.

I realize I'm part of the crowd, but I'm also quiet and respectful. Hell, I was a shy, introspective kid, so even back then I was quiet and well mannered.

by ihavenobias on 08/15/2008 12:26:21 PM EST

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remember child leashes? (none / 0)
You don't see them too often anymore.  If I had a kid, I would probably be playing pranks like bribing them into wearing a leash outfitted with a gag just to horrify people.

by desertpear on 08/15/2008 12:33:24 PM EST

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Well (none / 0)
I don't remember them in the 80's or 90's, but over the last so many years I actually see things like kid harnesses.

I saw one the other day in fact.

by ihavenobias on 08/15/2008 12:34:25 PM EST

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I guess (none / 0)
I meant harnesses, because a leash attached to a chokechain around a toddler's neck might be distasteful to some.

by desertpear on 08/15/2008 12:38:55 PM EST

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this made me lol (none / 0)

I'd love to see the 21st Century Anti-Littering Law.

But actually, I could use a few little ranch hands myself. 

by desertpear on 08/15/2008 11:36:26 AM EST

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You don't live in Japan (none / 0)
Overpopulation?  In America?  Have you BEEN to Montana?  Trust me, we've got some time before that big parking lot fills up.

by OneHitKill on 08/14/2008 09:57:53 PM EST

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It depends (none / 0)
Does Japan consume food and energy as much as we do here? Does Japan have horrible sprawl and wasteful and inefficient planning?



by ihavenobias on 08/14/2008 10:07:42 PM EST

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populations (none / 0)
Populations of organisms are rarely limited purely by available generalized "space."  Japan probably relies heavily on imported resources (maybe the reason for the $20,000 melons?).  Because of global trade, the issue of overpopulation must be addressed globally.  You can only do so much with engineering.  And then there is the "quality of life" issue that Nobias brought up. 

by desertpear on 08/14/2008 10:11:29 PM EST

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Nope, just move everyone to Montana (none / 0)
I've heard of ¥20,000 ($200) melons.  $20,000 melons are something you only find in Las Vegas.  On a stripper.

by OneHitKill on 08/14/2008 10:21:13 PM EST

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lol (none / 0)
you are right

by desertpear on 08/14/2008 10:26:17 PM EST

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You're stupid. (Example #1) (none / 0)
"maybe the reason for the $20,000 melons?"

Henceforth, I will start keeping track and highlighting examples.

At some point, you will either become a polite participant, or you will move on down the line.

by KenTX on 08/15/2008 12:24:37 AM EST

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you (none / 0)
are a witless fuckwad bully with no sense of humor.

by desertpear on 08/15/2008 03:19:46 AM EST

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Oh please, please (none / 0)
Please, make a white t-shirt with black letters that says "Witless Fuckwad Bully" and ask Ken to wear it.

It's a win-win so he'd probably do it.

by ihavenobias on 08/15/2008 11:25:04 AM EST

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Certainly, not probably (none / 0)
Ken will do that himself.  All you have to do is say, "I bet you won't!" and the next day he'll be rocking back and forth in anticipation of his next delivery from CafePress.

by OneHitKill on 08/23/2008 11:20:40 AM EST

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OVER THE LINE! mark it zero, next frame (none / 0)
Donny, you're out of your element.  You are the LAST person who should be talking about being a "polite participant."

by OneHitKill on 08/15/2008 04:47:41 AM EST

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I don't think this is possible (none / 0)

I am not sure I accept the use of non-white as a group that can be a majority.

A group defined as a variety of people who aren't something else can't really be a majority.

for example, if its

White 40%

Black 10%

Hispanic 30%

EVeryone else 20%

I think there is either no majoirty or its white people.

To say the "non-whites" are the majority is a really white-o-centric way to think about the world. 

by ProfRich on 08/15/2008 12:03:45 AM EST

Good one Rich (none / 0)
"White-O-Centric" .

Two thumbs up.

by ihavenobias on 08/15/2008 12:53:08 AM EST

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For the sake of convenience (none / 0)
Cut me some slack.  I used those words because "In 2042, the total population of the US consisting of people who aren't white will exceed the total population of the US consisting of people who are white" wouldn't fit in the thread title field.

by OneHitKill on 08/15/2008 04:51:36 AM EST

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I just think its funny (none / 0)

White people will one day have to suffer the ignomity of being a mere plurality and not a majority.

Oh, the humanity!

by ProfRich on 08/15/2008 08:41:36 AM EST

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OHK (none / 0)

What is a "white person"?

If I were to claim that I am of Mexican and Native American heritage then can I still be white? 

Given world history if I am from Sicilian or Jewish (or countless other examples) decent am I still white? 

by z1p101 on 08/24/2008 03:43:36 AM EST

You can be what ever you want (none / 0)
I am one-eighth Caribbean black, but to look at me, you'd call me "white," so that makes me "white."  The article I linked addresses the changing definition of "white," but in the end, it pretty much comes down to what you look like to everyone else.

by OneHitKill on 08/24/2008 05:55:00 AM EST

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Exactly (none / 0)

by z1p101 on 08/24/2008 11:52:31 PM EST

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