It Appears that TYT has been taken over by Trolls

Email Print posted by fkatz 08/19/2008 11:01:18 AM EST

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I don't need to point out the obvious.

My questions have been answered. The Forum section of TYT is simply a means to troll and spread conservative propaganda. No moderation. No consideration for more respectful and serious users. This is why TYT , in my mindwill always be a lower tier political talk and entertainment show, It doesn't take it self or it supporters seriously.

 TYT was described to me by a member as a "community". She is mistaken, there is no community I can find. The members are under the mistaken impression that a membership is all encompassing access to the TYT webisphere. It is not. Other than the broadcast, there is the Forum the most active part of the website.

TYT membership does not provide any advantages in posting diaries and comments on the website.  The website is open to everybody except those who post blatantly destructive diaries or comments.

There are some valid questions about what should be posted on the site and what should be blocked. If the users of the site were equally split between pro-Republican and pro-Democratic Party, that might be an issue because that's not what this site is supposed to be. For now, KenTX is in a tiny, tiny minority here so he's fine.

Dave your users are of a different opinion. A tiny tiny minority that makes a majority of the blogs and posts. Add the other " conservatives" and you have the majority of opinion being decidedly conservative of the extremist and falsehood variety.

The idea that post are open to those who post blatantly destructive diaries or comments is most certainly false as well as recent activity attests.

Now that school has started TYTs web time slot and morning drive fit into my schedule quite nicely. I was looking for an all inclusive experience, something other than standard news outlets. Unfortunately I will not find it here.

Good luck Dave, as TYT grows a bit maybe you will have more time to sort these issues out.

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It Appears that TYT has been taken over by Trolls | 85 comments (85 topical, 0 hidden)
What is Dave supposed to do, fkatz? (none / 1)
I ask this because on this free end of the website, how is Dave supposed to decide who to keep and who to boot?

Is all dissenting opinion supposed to be squashed and removed, fkatz?

Is everyone who doesnt tow the liberal line 100% a "Troll" or "Spammer"?

Is this site to be like DailyKos where NO dissent is allowed, and even the slightest tinge of Conservatism is to be shunned like an Amish Whore?

Does one supposed spammer (KOZLO) mean that TYT has been overtaken?

Now, I will say that for the membership money collected and for all of its supposed "credibility" as a talk show, TYT is lacking in a lot of areas. The Web Design and function stink, the set design is awful and the quality of sound are not the greatest that money can buy. And I will argue that sometimes TYT cant decide whether it wants to be a serious mainstream production or some pirated cable access show out of someones basement...

But God Dammit, most of the people who buy into the membership like this site for its lack of refinement - they like engageing discussions and the lack of serious direction...

As for the free side on the Forum, many of us who have been here longer than a day know that each one of us has special talents and abilities, and for all of the swearing, bitching and moaning we do at each other, we do enjoy discussion and rancor even though we might disagree. If Dave starts interfering and ripping posts out because they arent immersed in the Obama Kool Aid, then this site might as well just disappear completely because it will have lost its meaning and sense of community...

Basically, fkatz, if you dont want to use the Forum, then dont. If you dont want to invest in the product (membership), then dont. But dont rag on those that do, telling us what a bunch of Trolls and Malcontents we are... it just shows your complete arrogance and snobbishness toward others who arent like you (Sometimes I still wonder if you're MRFred's new sock puppet)

I think this arguement is somewhat systematic to the whole arguement within the Democratic party today:
 
Are Democrats going to be the party of acceptance and tolerance, or are they going to be the party of Kool Aid immersion and tow the line...

Its a tough question, really...

:)

by bobo1 on 08/19/2008 11:49:07 AM EST

Three times you have denied me... (none / 0)
Hey..ingrate...I have defended you and Ken and, gulp, even the ultimately extremely distasteful bytchbangs right to post here on several occasions.If I wanted you gone, believe me, I'd just tell you to your face and dispense with any pretense.

After that bytchbang transitioned from a semi-thoughtful conservative poster to raving lunatic, Photoshop fetus collector and ersatz pollster. He was dealt with...by himself...he committed blogocide

However...just a guess, this persons nic is fkatz. Here in FL the achievement tests are called FCATs. Hummmm coincidence? or he/she may run a deli...

by MRFred on 08/19/2008 01:12:23 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Daily Kos (none / 0)
You obviously know Daily Kos only from right-wing stories about it and the guy banned due to the Edwards story.  That site is gigantic and dissent runs rampant.  It is, and it does not hide this, a partisan site with the stated purpose of electing democrats.  When trolls interfere with that purpose, there are methods by which they can get themselves banned.  It's actually not that easy.  The Edwards story was a special case.  I like Daily Kos because of the large variety of people there--I can talk about mountain beavers without worrying it will be used against me in another thread.  But some of the political threads drive me nuts because of the dissent!! 

by desertpear on 08/19/2008 01:17:16 PM EST

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No, I was referring to my own experience at Kos... (none / 0)
I entered a name and established an account. I made 2 individual comments, one something good about McCain and one slighlty critical of Obama on different threads. Within 2 days, both had been removed, assumedly for content.

I wasnt outrageous (like I am here), I simply said something to the effect of "McCain isnt such a bad guy, you should give him a listen"...

They erased both comments almost immediately -

So much for dissent among bloggers...

That is where I get the Kos idea - from my own experimental trials...

Thanks

:)

by bobo1 on 08/19/2008 01:25:14 PM EST

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maybe try another tactic (none / 0)

See, when you started posting here, you posed as an Edwards, and then an Obama supporter.  It was only later that you admitted that you sometimes post here just to rile people up and don't really stand behind your arguments.  It worked--people accept you here, even if you piss us off. 

Your comment shows that you don't understand the system there though.  It's a user-moderated site, and only people who comment very regularly ("trusted users") can give "hide ratings" that hide comments from most users.  I have never even had the power to hide-rate/troll-rate comments there.  When your comment receives a certain number of negative ratings (which are usually only given for specific infractions that you probably didn't familiarize yourself with beforehand), it is hidden from all but those "trusted users" who have the ability to hide-rate comments.

Again, it is a partisan site with a stated purpose.  Markos is free to run it however he wants to achieve those purposes, just like with all other websites.  If you were posting pro-McCain stuff, I'm sure you were booted off quickly.  The purpose of the site isn't to debate Republicans or recovering Republicans or fight trolls.

I actually don't spend much time commenting there, but the huge numbers of posters make it an easy place to catch up on news of all stripes.

by desertpear on 08/19/2008 01:50:15 PM EST

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I'm not saying... (none / 0)
that DailyKos needs to run different - if they have their one sided preferences, thats fine and dandy with me - I dont pay the bills there...

But then people shouldnt use that kind of site as a place for valid news and debate since its obvious that they do not allow equity and fairness among its users..

I would just hate to see TYT go in that direction.

It really doesnt matter anyway, Pear - everyone outside the Liberal blogosphere knows that DailyKos is just a haven for American hating terrorists...

Duh!

:)

by bobo1 on 08/19/2008 01:58:02 PM EST

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actually (none / 0)

I had never even visited the Daily Kos site until Bill O'Reilly began to make such a stink about it.  Colbert and Olbermann picked up on the story and there was a huge bump in membership on Daily Kos.  It was called the "Colbert bump," but it should have been called the "O'Reilly bump."  You can't generalize about the diaries and diary series on Daily Kos.  They cover every subject in the universe, from mothering to gardening to birding to astronomy.  It's an awesome place to find an online community.  That you can't find a single good thing on that huge site says more about you than the site.

 

by desertpear on 08/19/2008 02:06:33 PM EST

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Kos' downside (none / 0)
You're a biologist. Imagine going to DailyKos and finding the diaries and comments about biology predominantly written by Young Earth Creationists. Almost every DK diary or comment thread about economics I read was dominated by the equivalent of Young Earth Creationists.

by Twba on 08/19/2008 04:45:53 PM EST

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I know what you mean (none / 0)
I find that problem most places I visit.  That's why one has to be skeptical and use their critical thinking skills.  It's too easy to be swayed when you agree with a blog about other things, like political orientation.  But you don't need to buy the whole hog.

by desertpear on 08/19/2008 04:53:38 PM EST

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By economic "Young Earth Creationist" (none / 0)

You mean "Economist"?

Let's be honest, your school of thought is the outcast and severe minority in the serious economic community.

Let's put aside who is right and who is wrong and be honest here.

I think your analogy would be more appropriate if you said it is like being a Young Earth Creationist and having to read a bunch of blogs by scientists.

by ProfRich on 08/19/2008 11:56:27 PM EST

[ Parent ]
PoorRich (none / 0)
Rich, I don't care what your bible tells you, Earth is more than a few thousand years old.

by Twba on 08/20/2008 07:38:54 AM EST

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PoorTWBA (none / 1)
I don't care what the Heritage Foundation tells you.  The economy is demand driven.

by ProfRich on 08/20/2008 09:02:24 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Rich (none / 0)
The general consensus is that Twba is by far the most intelligent participant in the forum. Since you usually disagree with him, is that confirmation that you are by far the most ignorant participant in the forum?

by KenTX on 08/20/2008 01:12:00 PM EST

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The general consensus? (none / 0)

By "general consensus" you seem to mean "In KenTx's opinion.."

But to follow the general logic.

The general consensus is...

You are a disingenuous, neuritic, lying, ill-informed, always wrong assclown.

Bobo is an insane racist drunk.

Obama is a FAR better candidate for president.

Obama is light years smarter than McCain.

TWBA cuts and paste most of his shit from the Heritage Foundation.

McCain is a giant, pandering liar.

See, these actually are the General Consensus of this forum.

Want more? 

by ProfRich on 08/20/2008 08:59:50 PM EST

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I always agree with Twba. (none / 0)
You should try it. You would feel smarter and sound smarter.

by KenTX on 08/20/2008 09:47:30 PM EST

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Hah (none / 0)
TWBA cuts and paste most of his shit from the Heritage Foundation.

You wish this were true so you could triumphantly present the proof. Good luck.

by Twba on 08/21/2008 09:15:26 AM EST

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Hold on Hoss (none / 0)
valid news and debate since its obvious that they do not allow equity and fairness among its users.

or Limbaugh, Hannity, Fox News, World News Net, News Max...

Weren't you the one bitching about the Fairness Doctrine, political correctness and free speech in one of your posts?

That genie is already out of the bottle...conservatives let it out with the "liberal media" whining ..now those chicken have come home to roost.

If Koz bounced you, oh well. These are the new rules...rules pushed by conservatives.

Cant have it both ways.

by MRFred on 08/19/2008 02:18:48 PM EST

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You don't pay the bills either. (none / 0)

Didn't somebody buy your membership for you?

I find all the grandstanding about being a member a little ironic coming from someone who's first posts on this site were bitching about how we had to pay (between the AAR to web only transition). 

by Spencer on 08/19/2008 02:35:12 PM EST

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did you buy bobo's membership??? (none / 0)

by desertpear on 08/19/2008 02:38:41 PM EST

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No, someone else did!!! (none / 0)
Spencer doesnt like me THAT MUCH Pear!!

:)

by bobo1 on 08/19/2008 03:10:10 PM EST

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I agree that Daily Kos has some negatives (none / 0)
I enjoy Daily Kos, but I have also had very negative experiences there when the thought police attacked my posts.   I absolutely do not agree wth the abuse of troll ratings that goes on at Daily Kos.  I would rather have to deal with the trolls rather than to have the thought police label me a troll because I dared to criticize certain Democratic Party holy cows.

by Gregory Wonderwheel on 08/19/2008 03:34:53 PM EST

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yep (none / 0)
There are some very sacred cows in our party.  Even questioning particular stances on issues can get you a world of abuse.  I've been there.

by desertpear on 08/19/2008 03:54:21 PM EST

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Trolls and whiny douchebags. (none / 0)

It's one thing to express your opinion about what you would like to change.  It's another to say

 "This is why TYT , in my mindwill always be a lower tier political talk and entertainment show, It doesn't take it self or it supporters seriously."

Umm, how to put this... FUCK YOU! 

I don't like KenTX posts not because he is a different point of view but because he is a raving poisoned dickhead who doesn't add anything. But how does that effect the content of the show? They could do the show without the forum completely. 

You have it ass backwards.  Way more people support the show to watch the content not to post on the forum. It's gotta be otherwise there would be thousands of users posting instead of just a couple dozen.

I don't know what show you consider upper tier (who else even does serious news and entertainment?) but whatever it is you are a clown if you think the forum on the website has anything to do with it.

Just because they don't agree with you doesn't mean they don't take themselves or its supporters seriously you prick!  No other show needs its supporters more than this one.  No other show makes a point to involve supporters as much as this one.

Take your head out of you ass and realize your negativity laced post, drowning in faux drama, and reeking of self importance, isn't any better than one of Ken's.

by etrnlrvr on 08/19/2008 12:10:25 PM EST

I would have put it more nicely (none / 0)
but agree most of what you said. But you're at a 10.......2. I want fkatz to join the community. Statements like this will drive him/her away.

by hazmat on 08/19/2008 12:19:51 PM EST

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I don't care if he joins or not. (none / 0)

You don't get to insult the show and then implore people to see it your way as if you didn't just insult the show.

Yes I am at a 10.  That's usually what it takes to get me to post:)

by etrnlrvr on 08/19/2008 12:31:28 PM EST

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uh (none / 0)

Immediately going to personal attack mode seems a bit extreme for this post.  This person, although only one poster, obviously represents a segment of people that come here and don't post for various reasons.  You could have made your point without the giant FU. 

and yes, I know I'm hardly a saint on this forum.  

by desertpear on 08/19/2008 02:09:56 PM EST

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He came out of nowhere in the first place. (none / 0)

Yes my comments were harsh but so were his just thinly veiled under more polite language. He could have made his point without his judgement that " This is why TYT , in my mindwill always be a lower tier political talk and entertainment show".

The reason for my hair trigger is I like this show because it's NOT like other "top tier" shows.  Randi Rhodes is top tier and her show SUCKS!   So does Stephanie Miller.  Not that it was considered top tier but I really liked Sam
Seder but the callers on that show were left wing steroetypes that I couldn't stand even when I agreed with what they were saying.  In fact I don't really like call in shows period.

So I reject completely any notion that TYT should aspire to be like those shows and doubly so the notion that a forum is the reason for those shows to be the way they are/were.

I'm sorry if my anger and directness prevented those form agreeing but whatever his motives he degrades the show and then proceeds to tell us how to be saved from his been here 5 minutes prospective.  I had to call BS and in the succinct harsh way that I did.

by etrnlrvr on 08/19/2008 02:46:12 PM EST

[ Parent ]
understood (none / 0)
This is a smaller "community" that tends to be rabidly defensive of TYT.  It's a great show.  I don't listen to any other progressive talk shows myself--never really liked them either. 

by desertpear on 08/19/2008 03:12:57 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Something needs to be done. (none / 0)
David, I don't agree with a lot of the details of this blog, especially that because users disagree with your interpretation of membership, you must be wrong. But there is clear abuse from this Kozlo guy. I (and many others here) enjoy some of the back-and-forth with intelligent, sincere conservatives and support their unrestricted access to the site. However it seems clear to me that fkatz has a point. Conservatives have places on the web where they can dump conservative spam. You should not allow TYT to be one of those places.

by hazmat on 08/19/2008 12:13:18 PM EST

One guy... (none / 0)
puts a picture of an ugly baby on the site and you guys go into a tizzy...

Other than his form being a bit obnoxious, has KOZLO done anything except offer his opinion about topics? Has he threatened people? Has he lied outright? Has he really done anything way over the top?

No - he just drives you guys nuts because now you cant go around and say your tolerant and accepting of others - in his silly and obnoxious way, he has exposed many of you for what you really are - people who are intolerant of others and who deny basic truths...

Now, do I agree with 100% of how he says things? - no - but I do love watching you guys squirm in trying to respond...

:)

by bobo1 on 08/19/2008 12:21:15 PM EST

[ Parent ]
ugly baby (none / 0)

I don't know what you're talking about, bobo.

But nevermind that. This probably won't sink in to your thick skull, because I've seen other people tell you this about 10 times, but I am not bothered by Kozlo's opinions. I am bothered by manner of their delivery.

I enjoy discussing topics with you even though you're mental. Conversations with you go somewhere--in circles, mostly--but they do go somewhere. Exchanges with Kozlo just lead to more spam. That means he is using the site for a purpose other than its intended use (free and open debate), and that constitutes abuse. If we could get everyone to ignore him, perhaps he would leave, but the newbies keep feeding him.

He's like a terrorist. He uses our cherished freedoms and liberal posting policy against us.

by hazmat on 08/19/2008 12:34:36 PM EST

[ Parent ]
The ugly baby... (none / 0)
Is floating around a few of the more recent posts

I dont know how to link them, but one of them is under his name

Its actually kind of a cute picture...

:)

by bobo1 on 08/19/2008 12:39:58 PM EST

[ Parent ]
if its the "democrat" party seal (none / 0)
I didn't mind that. And I was confused because you said "ugly" baby.

by hazmat on 08/19/2008 12:48:10 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Maybe homely... (none / 0)
would have been a better word choice!

:)

by bobo1 on 08/19/2008 12:53:50 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Poor Bobo (none / 0)

 

Haz, Bobo is referring to a Kozlo post which sent the forum into such a tizzy that (so far) it has been completely ignored. No responses, that's how much of a tizzy we're in.

by MedfordTim on 08/19/2008 12:56:19 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Well... (none / 0)
Those and others - How many threads over the past few days have been almost completely devoted to the subject of our new friend Kozlo? 3-4 at my last count...

Im not sayin anything, Im just sayin...

:)

by bobo1 on 08/19/2008 12:59:06 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Has he? (none / 0)

 

(Note: My main reason for responding is to piss etrnlvr off.)

Did he post it elsewhere? I wasn't aware as I IGNORE Kozlo posts.

But if he has to resort to posting stuff like "the baby" that came out before the LAST presidential election (My friend had a copy on his refrigerator) I have to wonder what comes next? 

News that Dewey won?

 

by MedfordTim on 08/19/2008 01:13:10 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Gee thanks (none / 0)

Believe it or not I wasn't trying to piss you off.  Well fkatz maybe but not you.:)

If you really think I am a sock puppet I guess I get why you are so hostile.  But wasn't trying to attack you or piss you off.

If people enjoy every thread not being about the subject then they win and I lose and that's ok.  I know you are have been around the forums/show from the beginning it just hurts my brain a little that are ok with that is all. I am not trying to antagonize you.

by etrnlrvr on 08/19/2008 03:11:19 PM EST

[ Parent ]
It appears we have... (none / 1)

 

...peas in our time.

We cool, then, mmm-kay?

by MedfordTim on 08/19/2008 03:19:49 PM EST

[ Parent ]
He mixed in some good points (none / 0)
with some bad, irrelevant and unproductive non-constructive criticism.

And that sucks because now the baby has (understandably) been thrown out with the bathwater. In other words, a thread like that (the original post I mean) discredits the constructive criticism and has the opposite effect of what was intended I'm sure.

by ihavenobias on 08/19/2008 12:45:10 PM EST

[ Parent ]
it didn't bother me either (none / 1)

Its the sign of a novice poster who doesn't fully appreciate the dynamics of a forum like this. He wants to quit and take his ball home. That's okay, everybody takes a little while to adjust. fkatz obviously enjoys the show, and says he's looking for more involvement. Let's encourage him.

The problem is (as Tim points out) that we're in garbage time in midseason. During the primaries there was a lot more discussion and debate. Maybe that's what fkatz was looking for, and if so I say hang around fkatz, it'll heat up soon enough.

by hazmat on 08/19/2008 12:54:56 PM EST

[ Parent ]
One thing I will say (none / 0)
is that I'm a 'regular' who encourages and likes more participation (just not from people who only want to disrupt/inflame/spam).

This shouldn't be some exclusive Boy's Club, but I think some people view it that way sometimes.

by ihavenobias on 08/19/2008 01:20:50 PM EST

[ Parent ]
agree (none / 0)
you always encourage participation. That is one of the many reasons you rock, web soldier.

by hazmat on 08/19/2008 01:26:11 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Thanks (none / 0)
I appreciate it. I'll add you as a reference on my resume.

;)

by ihavenobias on 08/19/2008 02:17:06 PM EST

[ Parent ]
we are extremely lucky to have you nobias (none / 0)
It would be awesome to have more voices here. 

by desertpear on 08/19/2008 01:52:58 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Thanks Pear (none / 0)
We need to have more female voices here, so keep on posting. :)

by ihavenobias on 08/19/2008 02:15:21 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Ive just got to ask you (none / 0)
desertpear?

by MRFred on 08/19/2008 02:22:58 PM EST

[ Parent ]
cornered again (none / 0)

by my strange nic.  When I signed up, I was dopey and didn't realize my username (or whatever they called it on the registration) was going to be my screen name.  I just picked some random thing that popped into my head, and that was Donna Barr's fantastic comic "The Desert Peach."  The Desert Peach is Erwin Rommel's gay brother.  Ms Barr did an amazing amount of research for her comic.  She's also just a cool woman.  When I wrote to her a long time ago to tell her how much I loved her work, her reply included an original illustration to me.

So as not to be labeled a "sock puppet," once I realized desertpear was my screen name, I just went with it.

by desertpear on 08/19/2008 02:52:14 PM EST

[ Parent ]
I'm definitely going to track down (none / 0)
that comic now just out of curiosity.

by Spencer on 08/19/2008 02:55:37 PM EST

[ Parent ]
it's definitely worth it (none / 0)

by desertpear on 08/19/2008 03:26:17 PM EST

[ Parent ]
that's a much cooler story than mine (none / 0)
I'm a bit of a klutz. My weight-lifting buddies gave me the nick when I dropped a weight once. It stuck.

by hazmat on 08/19/2008 03:09:55 PM EST

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As for me (none / 0)

the old timers know but the Turks gave me my name back when they took a lot of calls.  I called a lot and I think it was Ben who started calling me Professor and it stuck.  I was Professor Rich in Austin from then on.

I had been looking for a way to explain I am a high school teacher and not a professor to the newer folks.

I don't want to mislead anyone, so there it is. 

by ProfRich on 08/19/2008 04:20:18 PM EST

[ Parent ]
And since you've all been clamoring for it... (none / 0)

My name comes from...  my name.  But you can all call me Home Keys.

Wow Rich, you're old school.  I'm impressed.  Now I really hope they start taking a few calls more often. 

by Spencer on 08/19/2008 04:25:23 PM EST

[ Parent ]
I think it was... (none / 0)
Spring 2004.

by ProfRich on 08/19/2008 11:52:38 PM EST

[ Parent ]
I have a cure for that. (none / 0)
Drop a dime on your foot. Even a rubber clad plate. You will be more careful for the rest of your life.

by KenTX on 08/19/2008 04:52:40 PM EST

[ Parent ]
it was a nickel (none / 0)
and believe me, I remember it.

by hazmat on 08/19/2008 05:03:41 PM EST

[ Parent ]
I was wearing runners. (none / 0)

by hazmat on 08/19/2008 05:21:17 PM EST

[ Parent ]
this reminds me so much (none / 0)
Of when a horse innocently stands on your toe.  ouch.

by desertpear on 08/19/2008 05:12:07 PM EST

[ Parent ]
lol (none / 0)
I thought it had something to do with the suits. 

by desertpear on 08/19/2008 04:56:40 PM EST

[ Parent ]
well (none / 0)
you're not far off the mark. That's why I like the nic.

by hazmat on 08/19/2008 05:02:37 PM EST

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How does the rating system work? (none / 0)
I see the ratings below the posts but I haven't figured out how they work. If I click a rating where does it get tallied up on the page to show others? What does "rate all" mean?

A good use of the ratings buttons should be all that is needed to deal with trolls but I don't see that the ratings are working in any effective way to show the readers how the posts and comments are rated.

by Gregory Wonderwheel on 08/19/2008 03:43:14 PM EST

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Answers (I think) (none / 0)

The Rate All button just enters all of the ratings that you've put in on the current page.  You can see the rating right next to the comment subject.  Like this.

How does the rating system work? (none / 0)

    &nb sp;         &nb sp;         &nb sp;         &nb sp;         &nb sp;         &nb sp;       ^^^ rating

If you click on the link next to the subject line you can see who's rated the comment and how. 

I don't know what else it does, but generally I use it to point out which jokes I think are funny.
 

by Spencer on 08/19/2008 03:50:51 PM EST

[ Parent ]
weee (none / 0)
Comments can be sorted by rating.  Somehow I have a default that a highly rated comment goes to the top of the comment section. It seems it needs a few ratings to get the 'bump' up.  

I still don't think the recommend this post button is working. Before it would tally stuff up. but now it doesn't seem to do anything but induce a refresh.

On a general side note: people bitch to much.

by jazzchic on 08/19/2008 04:10:45 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Give it more time. (none / 0)

 

From the sounds of it, you haven't been around very long.

I urge you to stick around for awhile.

Long-timers know that any pre-election time is a silly season when the wingnuts come out of the woodwork at the behest of their masters to spread vile lies and work to break morale. Seems it worked on you.

It WILL get worse before it gets better, but come November these weasels will disappear. For one thing, they will be going back to their Freeper bases to lick their wounds and snivel about Obama taking 48 states, the Senate and House both holding significant majorities, and how the Supreme Court will regain some semblance of sanity. Pity them for their ignorance, don't hate the site.

 

by MedfordTim on 08/19/2008 12:16:40 PM EST

Please Tim... (none / 0)
Take your "48 states" and shove it - this electoral map is gonna be about 50-50 and you know it...

Do you want the list of states again?

:)

by bobo1 on 08/19/2008 12:23:08 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Your list where Obama wins Kansas? (none / 0)

And wins the election?

Yes, please. 

by ProfRich on 08/19/2008 01:40:19 PM EST

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I know honey attracts (none / 0)

more bees than vinegar but you are letting fkatz off too easy.

by etrnlrvr on 08/19/2008 12:23:36 PM EST

Hey Tim and bobo (none / 0)
How about we keep this thread remotely on track not prove the point of the original arguement?  Just a thought

by etrnlrvr on 08/19/2008 12:25:40 PM EST

Excuse you? (none / 0)

 

Please explain how I strayed from the point?

by MedfordTim on 08/19/2008 12:30:55 PM EST

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I strayed... (none / 0)
but I sure as Hell aint gonna let some snooty asshole tell me how to post on any thread...

But then again, Im supposedly one of the trolls...

:)

by bobo1 on 08/19/2008 12:33:37 PM EST

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This (none / 0)

didn't really have to do with the point and was bait for bobo to sink his teeth into. 

For one thing, they will be going back to their Freeper bases to lick their wounds and snivel about Obama taking 48 states, the Senate and House both holding significant majorities, and how the Supreme Court will regain some semblance of sanity. Pity them for their ignorance, don't hate the site.

I know that's how things work on this forum but I didn't want to hear the usual back and forth  on this thread that had nothing to do with the topic.

by etrnlrvr on 08/19/2008 12:38:10 PM EST

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Does anyone remember... (none / 0)
taking a vote on caring about what you wanted to see on this thread?

I sure dont...

:)

by bobo1 on 08/19/2008 12:42:04 PM EST

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the same goes (none / 0)
for anyone voting to approve of any thought or idea you have expressed.  It seems we have both missed a lot of elections I guess? :)

by etrnlrvr on 08/19/2008 01:53:41 PM EST

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Guess you'll just have to kiss my ass (none / 0)

 

Garsharootie! Maybe you're right! Maybe a simple "fuck you" stays on topic and sums it up. What was I thinking?

Yes, it's all so clear now...I should stick with referring to people who are new to the site as "prick" and "whiny douchebag."  Or tell them to get their head out of their asses. Yeah, THAT really sticks to the point of the post, eh?

Whose hand is up YOUR ass?

by MedfordTim on 08/19/2008 12:51:20 PM EST

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It does actually (none / 0)

because I was talking about fkatz not trying to make a general point about wingnuts.  This wasn't fkatz's first post on the subject either.

I have no bone to pick with you in general but vitriolic or not I was hoping the back and forth would be about what fkatz said not Tim and bobo that's all.

By the way I am not a fucking sock puppet! Which both sides (meaning the wingnuts and the sane people) usually say after every single post I make because I am not part of the weird mutual masturbation you guys particupate in all the time with the conservetive guys.

I have only ever been etrnlrvr or loner on the forum and only the two because I had a problem with my membership not renewing so I reregistered.

It's funny your so worried about fkatz who disses the show but willing to go after me who has been a member on and off for a long time.

Anyway back to my hole where I just watch and enjoy the show.

by etrnlrvr on 08/19/2008 01:33:21 PM EST

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Go after you? (none / 0)

 

I'm glad to hear you're not a puppet. I'm also glad to hear you don't have a hand up your ass.

Let's say I overreacted slightly to your perception of how often I engage the Usual Suspects and your expectation of things to come.

Check back over a few - or a hundred - posts where Bobo has commented and see how often I actually engage him, then add up the numbers from other people. I believe you will find I am in the minority of responders.

Now, if you'd like to criticize my depiction of Freepers and their baiting habits, have at it. That's how I see them and that's what I've seen them do. If I am wrong, show me how.

Geez, all this grief for requesting patience...

by MedfordTim on 08/19/2008 03:14:35 PM EST

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fair enough (none / 0)
It's all good

by etrnlrvr on 08/19/2008 03:49:11 PM EST

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Hey... (none / 0)
Why dont you shut the Hell up and mind your own business...

Just a thought...

:)

by bobo1 on 08/19/2008 12:34:31 PM EST

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chill (none / 0)

calm down dude there were no comments posted when I syarted my 1st comment you just got yours finished before mine.  I don't expect you to not say something against Tim which is why I called you both out.

Funny I guess it proves there is a community though because the minute  someone posts who isn't one of the regulars both matter and anti-matter (tim and bobo) seem to be perturbed. 

by etrnlrvr on 08/19/2008 12:43:22 PM EST

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Not a regular? (none / 0)

You're a regular, aren't you? You post every couple of years, that's fairly regular.

Odd choices for WHAT you choose to respond to, in my opinion, but certainly up to you.

by MedfordTim on 08/19/2008 01:17:21 PM EST

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I tend to post about the show (none / 0)

My interest lies in the show mostly and not in the day to day political discussions on the blog/forum. 

The good ones are well represented and I don't think I could add to them or have a passionate point of view which you must be thankful for :).

The rest are just stupid back and forths with people I don't really want to hear and choose to ignore because they don't go anywhere.

by etrnlrvr on 08/19/2008 01:45:45 PM EST

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How does the old song go? (none / 0)

It's alright now, I've learned my lesson well, you see you can't please everyone, so you've got to please yourself.

Moderation is a great thing.  But where to draw the line is a different matter.  As long as someone isn't being overly abusive to ANOTHER MEMBER, you've got to let them speak.  We say all kinds of crap about Bush, but get upset if people say crap about Obama or liberals?  

But there is no good way to get rid of trolls, the more you dis them the harder they try.  KenTx and others of his mind do not come here to convince us - he knows it won't work.  He comes here to UPSET us!  And it works.

Actually there really is only one way to get rid of trolls.  One proven way that will always work.  

Ignore them. 

That pisses them off more than anything can. They crave attention and whither without it.  However, it seems people here love the sport of arguing with someone who wants an argument for it's own sake.  This encourages them, feeds them and makes them stronger. 

Sometimes it's hard to ignore someone when they say things to make you mad.  One thing I've had on a board I managed was an "ignore" setting.  You could ignore the posts or pms from anyone you wanted.  You literally wouldn't SEE their posts.  I never used it myself (unless I was being baraged in private messages by an asshole), but it can be useful to those who don't want to see certain folks posts. 

by blueheartinaredstate on 08/19/2008 12:43:37 PM EST

I have been ingoring them more (none / 0)

Mostly because I am busy.

But when he hangs a curve ball I am still going to crush the shit out of it, you cool with that? 

by ProfRich on 08/19/2008 01:45:10 PM EST

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don't stop (none / 0)
We need the Professor on this island!!

by desertpear on 08/19/2008 01:55:48 PM EST

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Did anyone notice (none / 0)
that kozlo's posts are dissappearing? I think the hand of God came down to smite him.

by hazmat on 08/19/2008 02:02:48 PM EST

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