Jared Taylor's Racist View of Australian Aborigines

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I enjoyed Cenk's interview with Jared Taylor the racist.   I want to write a little on the pivotal point Taylor attempted to make saying that Australian Aborigines have never contributed to world culture.  I think this is a pivotal point because it shows how Taylor uses circular reasoning for his entire perspective.

(I'm going to leave aside the entire issue of the inherent falsehood of "race" as a biological or ontological category and use the term in the common usage sense where it overlaps with the meaning of ethnicity, tribe, and nation to define a group of people sharing similar superficial genetic charactistics.)

Unfortunately, I have to begin by criticizing Cenk for falling into Taylor's trap by assuming Taylor's unstated premise that value is determined by physical power and material wealth.   The entire world view of racists depends on the legitimacy of their definition of "smart" or "intelligent" or "superior" as being measured by power:  A more powerful race is a more superior race.  Cenk bought into this false premise at least twice. First when Cenk asserted America was at its most superior in the 1990s defined by world power and wealth, and second, when Taylor said Australian Aborigines were inferior, Cenk's response of an example of a non-white superior race was the Egyptian empire.   

The essential error is to equate empire and power with superiority.  From an entirely different perspective (including mine), empire is a sign of an inferior race not a sign of a superior race.  When an native people is living successfully in its environment, raising children, telling their stories about life and death, etc., history teaches us they are invariably both amazed and appalled to meet the imperial invaders.  Whether it was Roman centurians, Spanish conquistidors or English pilgrims, the conquering invaders never proved their cultural superiority, only their superiority at domination through treachery, murder, and destruction. 

Now, to respond to Taylor's assertion that Australian aborigines are less intelligent and have never contributed to world culture.  Of course, the intelligence that Taylor is alluding to is culturally defined. Put Taylor into the Australian outback with the aborigines and watch how stupid he appears.  He wouldn't even know where to find water or how to get a meal.  An aborigine could only remark how stupid he would appear to be. 

Of course all native people contribute to world culture in one shared way by the addition of their myths to world literature and the Australian aborigines are no different.  The Australian aborigines are perhaps the oldest continuous culture on the planet. Those who actually know anything about the Abroiginal people, know that their sacred worldview of "The Dreaming" (A.K.A., "Dreamtime") is a valuable contribution to the world's spiritual culture.  

The aboriginal music and specificially the didgeridoo (didjerdu), the world's oldest wind instrument, is a wonderful contribution to world culture.    Also, the indigenous Australian aboriginal art is a great contribution to world culture.

So, when military might and domination is taken out of the equation of racial superiority, it is more than clear that racists like Taylor are simply using circular logic to define certain cultural achievements as failures and thereby claim that only the achievements that they identify with their own race are recognized as defining intelligence and cultural superiority.

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That really bothered me too, just as arguments that nothing of importance has ever come from Africa.  People are maybe forgetting that we all came from Africa.  And not all that long ago in the larger scheme of things.

I'm bookmarking your post--it is excellent for many reasons.

by desertpear on 08/19/2008 03:18:12 PM EST


Very well said!  I love your point about how it is an error to try to judge superiority by looking at a culture's world power.  Even aside from that, if Taylor actually took some time to look into the culture of the Austrailian Aborigines he might learn something himself.  The didgeridoo was what I instantly thought of when he tried to push his point.  I am pursuing a degree in music at UMBC and throughout my studies I have heard many experts credit the Didgeridoo as the world's oldest wind instrument.  Would you say that is a significant contribution to world culture?
 
So what if it's the oldest instrument? What does that mean for world culture today?  Am I calling an invention that is essentially a hollow stick a notable historical achievement?  If it's an a significant contribution, name someone who still plays this stick!
 
I think these are likely questions and comments from a person that has the mindest of Taylor.  To this I would respond with a personal experience.  Last summer, I caught the Dave Matthews Band on tour when they came through the Tweeter Center in Philadelphia.  During one of the songs, in front of thousands of onlooking people, they had a friend come on stage with a didgeridoo.  They then proceeded to play a song that was based around the constant thumping that was coming from the didgeridoo, which was being played in a traditional Austrailian Aborigine style.  Many people who were at the show, including myself, considered this to be the highlight of the show.
 
I found an article on spinner.com that listed the Dave Matthews Band as the 11th highest-grossing tour of 2007.  This of course means that out all the music that was played live all over the world, this show that included an Austrailian Aborigine didgeridoo was the 11th most popular.  A significant contribution?  You be the judge.
 

by WylieBurge on 08/19/2008 03:52:28 PM EST


But if you have any recommendations for good didgeridoo music apart from this Dave Matthews Band piece, please post or send to me!!  if you have time..

by desertpear on 08/19/2008 04:01:14 PM EST

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called (get this) "Didgeridoo".

by Spencer on 08/19/2008 04:07:49 PM EST

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You're problem is that I agree 100% and disagree 0%.  ;)

It's pretty hard to come up with the right reply to ridiculous crap on the spur of the moment.  Cenk was thinking this on a base level and was getting at it in his response. 

by blueheartinaredstate on 08/19/2008 04:02:09 PM EST


While I was watching the show I was thinking something along the line of the example you stated.

"Put Taylor into the Australian outback with the aborigines and watch how stupid he appears.  He wouldn't even know where to find water or how to get a meal.  An aborigine could only remark how stupid he would appear to be."

If nothing else, they have contributed knowledge of how to survive in the outback. Anybody ever watch Bush tucker man on the discovery channel?

by whoosh on 08/19/2008 06:37:23 PM EST


I was, like all young turks out there, appalled and disgusted by Taylors world view.  People like Taylor bend and twist "facts" in order to suit their world view and justify their racism.  He is truly the antithesis of the American melting pot, the type of person who given the right moment could cause great damage ( Karadzic comes to mind) to the American spirit.   What is so ironic and a bit hilarious is that he is such a racist that in the end he can't help but be racist against his own cultural background (asian vs causcasian). If that does not prove that hate eats through someones soul untill it devours them whole then I don't know what does.  

I think its crucial here to look at the underpinnings of Taylors world view as ones that are joined in a complex way with a far right neo-con perspective.

  One quote that has stuck with me all these past 8 years is the quote bt the neo con (someone will have to inform me to exactly who it was)  who said something to the effect of " You people in the fact based world don't get it, when we act we create reality".  I am lead back to this quote whenever I delve into the right wing world view, the views that are held by those who adhere to it and the political/social actions of repulicans done in response to these views.  Please excuse me if I get a bit verbose here, I'd like to lay out  the basis for my opinions here as quickly as possible without losing anyone to boredom.  

It seems to me that the policys pursued and actions taken by the right are taken so that views like Taylors can be proven right.  I AM NOT saying that this is a conspiracy.  I am also not saying that at certain junctions there is not colusion based on simular interests.  However unfortunate and diabolocal these colusions might be many times they are perfectly legal and justifiable.  It depends on your view of things- ex. anti-abortionists see colusion between planned parenthood and Democratic reps- we see mutual interest.

This level of colusion or mutual interest is of course extremely insignifigant compared to the type that causes large amounts of public money to go one place and not another-and in the end it is the money Lebowski.  Think Haliburton, New Orleans, Abstinece only, Faith based anything, Pork Barrel, Lobbying, Iraq NOT America, Campaign contributions, Homeland Security, Social programs/no social programs, Education, Healthcare,  Junk Mortgages, Fannie Freddie, the rich over the lower and middle class, Enron, Torte  reform, Stem Cells vs Creationism...I could go on , but I think you get it. 

On all these issues the right wing sides towards the minority Fundementalist Christian voting base over the majority populace, the corporate interest over the individual, and funneling money and position towards those who share their views.  This is at face value UnAmerican and frankly it is extremely dangerous to our great experiment, our shining city upon a hill, our melting pot.

When Taylor lays out his pathetic case for racialism he depends on the trajectory of right wing thought and action to shape his truthiness.  What I mean to say is that when the right wing acts in the way it does it causes the conditions in which Taylors views can be realized.  I say realized here not proven because it is the conditions that are formed by the driving force of right wing will to power that cause these conditions.  An example here would be the Hispanic/Black race riots he sites in our prisons.  Taylors view on these occurances would be that we put these men in prison for crimes thay commited then because of their base instincts and less than human attributes they attack each other.  First I would say, what about the white prison gangs- the Nazi low riders- do they get a pass here?  They are white yet they form ultra-violent gangs too.  If one truly delves into the facts in an impartial way it becomes clear that it is socio-economic factors, lack of education, class distinctions (very often dictated by lingering institutional racism) and the environent one grows up in, dictated by the forementioned factors that determines what type of a person you will be, not your race. It is the living conditions that have been created through these factors that determine what a person will become, and it just so happens that the socio-economic conditions for blacks and hispanics are rife with poverty, violence, lack of proper education, and lack of opportunitys.  The right bolstered by their black and white view of the world, punative not rehabilitive outlook, coupled with the pull yourself up by your bootstraps mentality treats criminals like Taylor treats minoritys- as people who are born into the world less than good- pre-disposed towards failure.  Too bad for Taylor that all true scientific research proves definitively that it is nature and nurture that determines what a person becomes.  And it is not nature in the eugenic sense but in the sense of your lineage.  The disctiction here is that Eugenics purposes that our qualities are determined by our race- lineage, in the way I am using it, refers to how intelligent your forebearers were.  All races have dumb people and intelligent people in equal proportion, it is the opportunities, education and development that determines what these people will achieve.  Think George W Bush- all opportunity.

How, you might say, is this solely the right wings fault?  I would not claim that it is only the right wings fault, it is both parties fault, then by extension our fault.  But what I would say is that it is the world view of the CURRENT far right wing that acts as a barrier to the American dream continuing to progress.  When the national political discussion turns to Terry Shiavo, Gay marriage, Guns, and the ten commandments in schools (almost forgot that last one didn;t you :)  not to our poor education system, global competitiveness, and generally making our country an better more prosperous place it is the right wing we can identify as the culprit.  

Finnaly I would like to close on this thought.  It is our patchwork of races, nationalitys, and cultures that is at the heart of the strength of our great nation.  On our best days we dazzle and amaze the rest of the world with our ability to live in harmony with each other, to gain strength and purpose by working together.  On our worst days we show the world that we are like most everybody else in the world who must live with people unlike themselves- Xenophobic, shallow, and paranoid.  On our worst days we create men like Jared Taylor.  In our last days we believe him.

 I would love to have an ongoing frank discussion about race and our country to any and all who would like to.

Thanks for listening,

Sean
 

 

by Iyouwe on 08/19/2008 09:32:29 PM EST

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Although I do agree that taylor is probably a racist and the motivations for his work are not pure, I do think the interview showed a very important cultural phenomina...it is impossible to have a real, rational discussion about race without it devolving into shouting and name calling. 
The polically correct common wisdom about race is highly contradictory, yet anyone who challenges it is imedeatly labled as hitler.  This common wisdom claims that every race is the same and there are no real differences in the capabilities of the races.  On the other hand it also states that diversity is good and that a mix of different races together is stronger than one race on its own, implying that each race brings something different to the table.  Both of these statements cannot be true as they are mutually exclsive. 

What is far more likely is that the races truely are different in some important ways (This statement is not racist, but using it to treat people differently is...this is a very important distinction).  The closest example in "nature" is dog breeds.  Genetically all dogs are almost exactly the same, but no one who has ever spent time around a number of different types of dogs would claim that they are all the same.  Pitbulls as a breed are generally more agressive than labs, grey hounds are generally faster than basset hounds, some breeds have higher energy, some breeds are easier to train, etc.  This is because cultural selection has guided their evolution to be good at specific tasks. 

It would not be too much of a stretch to assume that this has also occured, albeit likely at a slower rate, in humans.  In humans, selection is not only natural, but cultural as well.  Different cultures have different values, therefore different selection pressure when breeding.  Give this process thousands of years and it is not suprising that there are significant differences between races even though we all come from the same ancestors. 

As can be shown with all domesticated plants and animals, evolution occurs faster when it is guided by human intelligence.  Why would we think that this force does not apply to ourselves as well?

Those blinded by political correctness can commence calling me a racist now! 

by alphasigmookie on 08/20/2008 02:06:54 PM EST


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