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and tell me why the hell I am not hearing his name all over my television all day and night.

The only way this would be more suspicious is if he had died of radioactive poisoning.

We, my fellow Americans have been had, more than we realized.  What else have we allowed to happen in our names?

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What the heck are you talking about?

The Bruce Ivins story is all over the news - CNN, MSNBC, BBC, etc. We been had?  How and by who? What are you implying?

by ashbul on 08/02/2008 02:02:01 AM EST


If you google Bruce E. Ivins and go to the Google News tab, you get this page. You could keep going around in circles for days. Not only that, as of right now it has the second ranking! Go TYT with your bad selves, woot woot! Second ranking on google news, what's next? TYT goes main stream?

by tiggerporn on 08/02/2008 02:54:50 PM EST

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Obviously I meant "TYT is MSM" not "TYS is MSM" whatever TYS is. And obviously, tongue firmly in cheek because I do not, nor have I ever believed that TYT is MSM. The Young Turks is was and always shall be alternative media. But maybe the main stream is coming around? Who knows, stranger things have happened.

by tiggerporn on 08/02/2008 03:12:11 PM EST

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This guy is all over the Fucking News Today - They even pre-empted Moses for this guy! Now as to your second point - I do find it a bit too convienent that he just happened to "commit" suicide in this matter - but they can't have people telling us the truth as to what we are doing in "research" of biological/chemical weapons can we? If they put him on trial, God only knows what truths would have come out!!!

by bobo1 on 08/02/2008 02:16:23 AM EST


this has been all over the news. But its really striking that they're reporting that he is the guy responsible for the anthrax scare and now we'll "never find out". I don't think that's the case. The second wave of contaminated letters were mailed to the senate majority leader and the head of the senate judiciary committee days before the patriot act was scheduled to be released from committee. Those two were responsible for letting it out of committee. So who's responsible? I have no friggin clue. None at all.

 

by hazmat on 08/02/2008 11:07:48 AM EST


I didn't see it on the news before I left for work, only on Olbermann when I got home (DVR).  I assumed that, once again, he was the only one reporting the actual important news, and I was tired.

 It's really hard not to buy into conspiracy theories when you see crap like this.

Palin in 2012? Bitch, please! No, really, please run in 2012, bitch. ;)

by richardshort2001 on 08/02/2008 12:14:43 PM EST


Google Gary Webb, google Aberdeen Proving Grounds, google MK Ultra, google Dr. Gottlieb, google the Easter Bunny, google the Tooth Fairy. Then get back on the crack pipe. Geez, when are you loony conspiracy kooks gonna give it a rest, freakin' peaceniks!

How are we supposed to fight an enemy we can't see with our hands tied behind our backs?!? Sure, sure, Nixon signed the test ban treaty in 72 (biological weapons) but we had to keep testing at Aberdeen proving grounds in Maryland (US Army) to make sure to keep up with the rest of the world. Sure sure, so Rummy went a lil overboard with Saddam in 84, maybe he gave him a few strains of Anthrax, so what, old news, get with the program.

What's next, JFK? Area 51? Operation Teapot? Nellis Proving Ground? Jumping the shark? Nuking the fridge? So what, so what, Darth Cheney happened to be part of Nixon's administration, so did Rumsfeld, that doesn't mean anything. So maybe Nixon continued testing in secret, so what? Prove it!

So what Gary Webb exposed Iran Contra and the October Surprise and then he killed himself in mysterious circumstances, that doesn't mean anything. It is all just a load of nonsense. Sometimes you have to do a little bit of bad to do a greater good.

So we misplace a few strains of killer cow disease and it ends up in the post in Washington. Did the Patriot Act pass? Were we able to keep Gitmo open? Did we get support for the surge? Didn't we finally get Iraq's oil into Exxon's hands? Wasn't that the goal all along?

For every MK Ultra there is going to be one Frank Olson, freedom has a cost. Oh, in other news, the last known "conspirator" in the JFK assassination died this week. No one noticed because he was in his 80's and died with his family peacefully in his bed at home. No wait, the grassy knoll, triangulation, the magic bullet, George Bush, LBJ, Howard Hughes, the CIA, the Nixon slush fund, blah blah blah BLAH BLAH!

You just don't get it, Bush is above the law because he is the law, he can't break the law because (well, at least according to John Yoo and Henry Kissinger) anything he does is de facto legal. He doesn't need a note from your mom.

by tiggerporn on 08/02/2008 02:11:50 PM EST

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I am no conspiracy theorist, 9/11 truthers are some of my favorite people to pick on, but just saying its hard to not at least consider it as nicely as all this is lining up on this particular subject.

Palin in 2012? Bitch, please! No, really, please run in 2012, bitch. ;)

by richardshort2001 on 08/02/2008 03:19:15 PM EST

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It's totally fishy.  I'm not a conspiracy theorist either, but this stinks.

by desertpear on 08/02/2008 03:21:11 PM EST

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Well? Didn't the CIA train Osama Bin Laden? Weren't we working with the Taliban in the months before the attack? It is kind of the logical extension of what you are saying, isn't it? There is obviously a line between killing 3,000 (innocent) people, destroying two skyscrapers and flying a plane into the pentagon, and what is being circumstancially accused here, of a cover-up of someone in our own gov't using anthrax to attack Washington.

But the modus for both is the same, if not the motive. Spooks using overseas contacts and contracts to cause domestic violence. If the 9/11 theorists are to be believed. So what exactly are you beating around the bush about (pun intended) ? Are you accusing the US Army, or the CIA, or the FBI, or gov't officials such as Cheney or Bush of high crimes, treason, and the use of gov't personal and facilities to cause panic and spread terror and possibly inflict life threatening injuries or even death? And then a massive cover-up? All to ensure that important gov't and military contracts were continued? Those are some pretty serious allegations.

But you're just lining up the ducks in a row and letting people make their own conclusions, I get it, sure sure.

Oh, and the name of the man involved with JFK was Paul Bentley, a police officer at the theatre.

by tiggerporn on 08/02/2008 03:36:01 PM EST

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when the 3,000th CIA movie worthy scandal occurs, that maybe there is SOMETHING to it, therefore I am a JFK conspiracy theorist too?

I just wish someone in our government would grow a set so we could get answers as to how much our government was involved in (surely its more than 0 right) screwing us over since Bush took office and MAYBE even discouraging future abuses by prosecuting the bastards.

We do know that they linked the Anthrax to this guy through DNA yet somehow in 2001 we "knew" some of the Anthrax came from Iraq.  At the very least they once again used a tradgedy to make a case for a war they knew had nothing to do with the tradgedy.

Unlike 9/11 this tradgedy was positively linked back to our government.  If it is possible for one man to do these anthrax attacks alone, isn't it also possible that the same man could do it when asked by someone high in the White House and no one in between knowing about it.  It doesn't require a massive conspiracy.

Palin in 2012? Bitch, please! No, really, please run in 2012, bitch. ;)

by richardshort2001 on 08/02/2008 05:42:20 PM EST

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The next time someone says "we haven't been attacked since 9/11" remind them that we were, and refer them to the anthrax attacks.


by ihavenobias on 08/02/2008 03:34:47 PM EST


...that they were HOMEGROWN acts of terrorism - No Muslims Necessary.


by MedfordTim on 08/02/2008 04:48:02 PM EST

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Terrorism without Muslims is like Pizza without cheese or cereal without milk or something.*









*(Since there are so many new posters lately I guess I should make my sarcasm more obvious)

by ihavenobias on 08/02/2008 04:58:36 PM EST

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