Bigfoot - Cenk is an idiot!

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I'm just watching the loop of the show, and Cenk's being a complete wanker when it comes to Bigfoot

First of all, let me address this whole thing...do I think these hillbillies in Georgia actually found a bigfoot? No. This is mostly because their story is classic snakeoil salesman type explanation for a hoax. They didn't want to reveal the location they found the bigfoot to protect the other bigfoots? YEAH RIGHT. That's the same thing I'd say if where I actually got the "bigfoot" was my buddy's garage, where we'd been concocting this assanine prank for the last couple of weeks while we were on workman's comp for hitting our head's at whatever stupid blue collar job we have. Besides, the picture just looks like some fucked up mixture of random fabrics, a mask, and some animal entrails thrown in for good measure. Looks like a damn muppet or something.

 

But now we get to where Cenk is beyond wrong. Why isn't a bigfoot possible? You spew all this pessimism about this being so unlikely, but just the other day you were saying "Well, it's obviously possible that there's a Chupacobra! Anyone who disagrees with me is bumfuck retarded." For the exact reasons Chupacobra could be real, I think, Bigfoot could be real, as well. I'm very skeptical, but it's possible. Seriously, why couldn't evolution produce some strain of the homo family (LOL!) that is like Bigfoot? For all I'm concerned, Bigfoot could just be a tall gorilla. And there are large swaths of the South that's miles away from civilization. There may be Southerners there, but they aren't very civilized.

 Second of all, why wouldn't DNA testing work? You love Maury Povich all of a sudden, but in this case, You are.....NOT THINKING VERY HARD. I don't know why anyone for some reason thinks this is a half human hybrid, so that makes no sense, but all the DNA has to conclude is that it's not an animal we know of.

 

So, in conclusion: These morons are likely lying...but is it possible? As possible as a chupacobra 

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 Cenk was right-on with his "I smell bullshit here."  Just prior to the show, Rachel Maddow and Keith Obermann debunked the bigfoot story she had reported on COUNTDOWN the night before. 


by gatekeeper50 on 08/20/2008 10:10:20 AM EST


Cenk was right on one point, but wrong on the second (whethe rit's possible at all)

by Perry on 08/20/2008 10:13:59 AM EST

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As a fan of late night talk radio,  sure it's possible...but probability is miniscule.

by gatekeeper50 on 08/20/2008 10:18:48 AM EST


"Chupacabra" is nothing more than a term for describing every calf, deer, sheep or goat that died out of sight for undetermined reasons and got gnawed on by hungry coyotes, feral dogs or cats, possums, raccoons, bobcats or mountain lions.  The pictures I've seen are probably weird crosses between coyotes and stray dogs (they call them coy-dogs around here).  I doubt seriously that there are full grown coyote sized dogs in the American Southwest that have never been identified before.  The chances of that are very, very small.

The chances of a large bi-pedal primate being undiscovered in North America are so small they are practically not worth talking about.  No one has ever produced a shred of convincing evidence and until they show up with sample in hand they should be completely ignored.  The people perpetrating the current bigfoot hoax should never again be quoted in a newspaper or newscast that takes itself seriously.  Of course that never stopped them before.

by bfaul on 08/20/2008 10:19:14 AM EST


an example of the extreme innumeracy that causes journalists to devote 50% of their time/effort to discussing "both sides" of an opposing issue is also the implicit assumption between your moronic argument about "but it is possible for there to be a bigfoot".

leaving aside the definitional problems with what exactly a constitutes a "bigfoot", it is definitely rational to _not_ give the same level of credence or importance to an event that has a 99.99999% probability of occurrence vs. an event that has a 0.00001% probability of occurrence, merely because both events, mathematically speaking, "are possible" (since their probability is not strictly zero).

but maybe a moron like you has no conception of probability, and you give all "possible" events equal consideration in your life.

buffoon. 

by neo on 08/20/2008 12:21:29 PM EST


Looks like I have to return my "I saw Bigfoot and all I got was this lousy T-shirt" T-shirt.

Also, why wouldn't he be BigfEET?  Does he only have 1 leg?

"Like lipstick on a pig"

by TJD on 08/20/2008 01:14:38 PM EST

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What makes you assume its 50/50 with me? I operate the same with Bigfoot, Loch Ness, Chupacobra, unicorns, leprachauns, and whatever mythical character as I do with God. They're all "possible". However, I assume they're not real until I see evidence for it. Right now I don't believe in God or Bigfoot until I see evidence that doesn't look like a muppet like in this situation.

 

However, if Cenk is going to go around saying "Of course it's possible" in regards to Chupacobra, then he's got to have the same opinion here, as the situation is nearly the same.

 

Also, take the bug out your ass chum, cause I largely agree with you 

by Perry on 08/20/2008 02:20:26 PM EST

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Bwaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha !  This is something only a west-coast city dude could believe.  Dude, I WORKED in the Georgia "mountains" or "wilderness".&nbs p; Is there anyplace in that area where you are not a 1/4 mile from an ATV road or trail where Bubba's go to hunt deer in the fall?  No way!!!  There's more remote places in Virginia or Kentucky or Tennessee or Maine.

I've done a lot of backwoods hiking.  Is there anyplace in the continental US where a Bigfoot (or ANY unidentified species short of a bug) could live?  No fuckin' way!!  Not in Washington, not in Nevada, not in California, NO WHERE!

You'd have a hard time convincing me there is somewhere that remote in Alaska.  Maybe the Northern Territories in Canada.  Maybe in the Himilayas.  Maybe in Siberia.

Bigfoot is either a tale handed down by generations of Indians or natives of POSSIBLY a hominid (a surviving Neanderthal group?) in a far isolated place hundreds or thousands of years ago.  I could believe a Neanderthal "Yeti" in Siberia 500 years ago perhaps.  Maybe!  Anything else is a bear or a boar or something hairy (beer drinkin' bubba in a deer stand) that simply contributed to a legend.

Honestly, I don't believe that there is anywhere remote enough to hide an existing population of humanoid mammals anywhere on the planet.  You can't talk about an individual.  Individuals must come from a pair in the recent past, which must have come from at least a small population.

 

Finally - Dude, it's not nice to call someone an idiot to their face.  Not nice for you OR Cenk. 

 

by blueheartinaredstate on 08/20/2008 12:52:48 PM EST


" Dude, it's not nice to call someone an idiot to their face"

 

Well that's fine, because I'm a coward and its over the internets

 

Anyways, I didn't really mean it all that seriously anyways, so calm down. Cenk is cool on all subjects that aren't related to Bigfoot 

by Perry on 08/20/2008 02:24:06 PM EST

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visit the Open Threads!

Maybe I should rename them Desertpear's Wild Turkdom

by desertpear on 08/20/2008 01:09:25 PM EST


It really was just a rubber gorilla suit!!!!!!  Jaysus!  I actually thought it was going to be a bit more sophisticated than that.

Do people really need publicity this bad? 

by blueheartinaredstate on 08/20/2008 04:20:41 PM EST


bigfoot goes down

I caught one of these suckers creeping round my house too.  It's finally starting to happen.

by rev24 on 08/20/2008 05:55:16 PM EST

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I saw the same one wearing a thong on YouTube not all that long ago.  Small world.  Big foot.

by Spencer on 08/20/2008 06:38:13 PM EST

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First, I have to agree that calling Cenk an idiot on his website's front page is pretty rude.  He's definitely not an idiot.  Imagine trying to keep all the information he has in his head from leaking out?  You try it!! 

Man, the only neanderthals I saw during that whole fiasco were the two mentally challenged cops or whatever they were.  I don't know how anyone fell for that.  Oh wait, I do know, and I could write a whole blog on the subject.  Americans are more and more ignorant of the native creatures around them due to living in the cities and through computer screens.  Everyone should be able to have a basic idea of the native species that live in the ecosystem surrounding him, and should be able to call bullshit when people have to make up a mythical creature to explain a damn coyote or dog with mange, or the fact that some of their chickens or goats were killed by predators because of inadequate fencing. 

And, everyone should know that bigfoot lives on the west coast because you nasty naked apes chased them out of the east long ago.  

My theory on bigfoot is that the overlap between ranges of hominids during the earliest portions of our history resulted in stories which eventually aged to myths and rumors.   Maybe we still carry that instinctive fear of running into a Gigantopithecus.  Understandable if they were this big

 

 

 

by desertpear on 08/21/2008 02:17:56 AM EST


Yeah, you nailed it Desert (I'm going to have to start calling you Spock, because you have all the answers).  I knew that Neanderthat was not exactly right because they were not that much larger than we were.

Anyway, I always wondered if the Yeti wasn't a small tribe of these kind of hominids (Gigantipithicus?) or something closely related that survived in northeastern Asia long after the rest of their kind died out.  Bigfoot might be a legend whose roots were with the American indians who came over from Asia thousands of years ago, but still remembered something like this living on in cold territories.

Or not.  Who knows?  Fun to think about.  Even funnier to think that ANYONE would believe that Bigfoot could be found in GEORGIA!!!! 

by blueheartinaredstate on 08/21/2008 02:02:42 PM EST

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about the legend--why not?  it makes perfect sense. 

by desertpear on 08/21/2008 02:31:33 PM EST

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