Hillary Haters Need to Shut The Fuck Up Now...

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For all of you Hillary Hating Kool Aid swimmers out there I am telling you right now - Shut The Fuck Up - if Obama loses now its his fault, not hers!!!

Hillary just made everyone who was somewhat unsure realize that they picked the wrong candidate for president - but besides that - She just did everything she could have possibly been expected to to bolster up Obama, propping him on HER SHOULDERS to win this election.

Its the Hillary Voters who are gonna put you Obama people over the top - not you Kool Aid smug ass people.

I want all of the Hillary Haters to take a minute to think about what just happened - your guy and his wife have just been literally shoved into the spotlight - Hillary has exonerated herself from any responsibility on their behalf - 

IF THEY DONT REACH OUT TO THE HILLARY VOTERS, THEY DESERVE TO LOSE!!!

And furthermore - Hillary should have at least been VP - that Ticket would have spanked Johnny Boy back here to Arizona. Joe Biden is a pussy compared to Hillary!!!!

Its up to Barack now - he better live up to the hype...

:)

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Fox news broadcast? (3.00 / 2)
You must have been watching the fox news broadcast...  Seriously though her speach pretty much sucked.  Yes it tried to push unity which is good, but other than that it was underwelming. 

by alphasigmookie on 08/26/2008 11:45:46 PM EST

Actually Mookie... (none / 0)
I watched it on CNN - and what happened afterward was amazing -

The camera panned to Anderson Cooper and he was standing there seemingly stunned, and he turned to Campbell brown and said "How did Obama NOT pick her as VP?"

And Campbell brown - the biggest Kool Aid drinker at CNN said in response "I really dont know..." and shook her head in disbelief...

That says it all right there - Obama supporters just better shut the fuck up - its his fault if he loses now, not hers...

:)

by bobo1 on 08/26/2008 11:49:32 PM EST

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You're BOTH wrong :) (none / 1)

You should've watched the speech on MSNBC (the best of the cable news networks by far).

 Clinton's speech was damn good. Funny enough, it's not to shut up the Clinton "haters", it's to shut up to the stubborn hold-outs who now have NO good reason to whine about Obama and claim they'll vote for McCain.

The End

by ihavenobias on 08/27/2008 12:02:46 AM EST

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I wont watch MSNBC or Fox anymore... (none / 0)
If Fox is Right Wing, Then MSNBC has fallen off of the cliff on the left - their anchors are literally fighting on air!!

Scarborough and David Shuster today, Scarborough and Olbermann yesterday...

And their coverage is crappy - they show all those boring ass speeches that no one listens to...

And Tom, it is shut up to the Hillary haters - the ball is firmly in Obamas hands now - if he fucks it up its HIS fault, not hers...


I think theres a lot of "buyers remorse" coming on - Lots of these Dems bought a bucket of warm piss called "change" and realize it aint gettin them anywhere real fast - A lot of Dems realize who SHOULD have been nominated now...


:)

by bobo1 on 08/27/2008 12:07:38 AM EST

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2 Things (none / 0)

MSNBC has a tiny bit of balance. Sure, there's Olbermann and Maddow but there's also Scarborough and Buchanan.

Besides, almost all of the others are "moderates" (i.e. people are supposed to be in the middle but who often buy the Republican framing and or as Cenk says go out of their way to not appear to be liberal).

And not only will there not be buyer's remorse, but I think this convention will do a world of good for Obama. That's between Biden helping undecided voters connect to the Obama ticket and Hillary putting the dagger in many (not all, but most is my guess) of the Hillary hold-outs.

by ihavenobias on 08/27/2008 12:14:08 AM EST

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Joe Scarborough this morning (none / 0)

What a crackup!!  Was he on meth or what?

Keep up the good fight bobo!!  We still need to beat Grandpa Death!!  Focus! Focus!! 

by desertpear on 08/27/2008 01:17:20 AM EST

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Last night's better (none / 0)

 

The Scar/Shuster dust up was okay, but Shuster freezes when he's challenged. Still fun to watch, but the better one was when Scarborough was giving an "analysis" and in the background you can hear Keith say, "Geez, why not use a shovel?" High-Larry-Us!

You can find it at Crooks & Liars.

by MedfordTim on 08/27/2008 02:30:33 AM EST

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I saw that one too! (none / 0)
All the newsfolk are living their wet dreams at the convention.  It's fun to watch.

by desertpear on 08/27/2008 02:35:32 AM EST

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That clip was great. (none / 0)

Joe's stunned silence was priceless. 

Thanks.

by Spencer on 08/27/2008 02:44:21 AM EST

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FoxNews coverage (none / 0)
There was a great interview of Susan Estridge ("Susan Estrogen") on the Greta Van Susteren show tonight. I can't link it yet, because it's not yet available on YouTube.

Both Greta and Susan are lifelong committed Democrats, and they were analyzing the impact of Hillary's speech on the PUMAs and assorted Hillary lovers.

The primaries are over. The VP selection is over. Hillary has conceded. Hillary gave the speech. Hillary begged her supporters to get behind Barack. 

But according to Greta and Susan, the speech only served to make Hillary's supporters love Hillary even more. They are more angry now than they were before the speech.

Greta is an expert on this subject, because she is constantly in contact with Hillary Girls on her blog.
 
Greta and Susan are both loyal Democrats and they certainly don't want McCain to win. But they both agreed that if McCain chooses a strong, qualified, credible woman VP, it is game over.

by KenTX on 08/27/2008 06:06:41 AM EST

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no matter how much (none / 0)

You and bobo go on about the PUMAs, no democrat is seriously worried about them.  Maybe it is because we have access to credible sources.

weak sauce.

by desertpear on 08/27/2008 01:27:25 PM EST

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@alphasigmookie Obamaphobes are underwhelming (none / 0)
CNN's John King: "She passionately supported Barack obama... She's a big game player, that was a big-game speech... she did what Obama wanted."


James Carville: "This is what a major-league fastball looks like."


Keith Olbermann: "A grand slam." (Olbermann also reported that on Clinton's way out to the podium and after she returned from delivering her speech, she was given a standing ovation by Obama staffers.)


Bill Richardson: "She couldn't have been clearer... She hit a huge home run, a 500-foot homerun. The best news is Democrats are unified."


MSNBC's Rachel Maddow: "Anybody who could be persuaded would be persuaded by that speech...She nailed it."

Wolf Blitzer: "Exactly what Barack and Michelle Obama wanted to hear."

Anderson Cooper: "This speech has electrified everyone in this crowd."

 

"If you hear the dogs, keep going.

If you see the torches in the woods, keep going.

If they're shouting after you, keep going.

Don't ever stop. Keep going.

If you want a taste of freedom, keep going.

Even in the darkest of moments, ordinary Americans have found the faith to keep going."

 

by Lib on 08/27/2008 12:34:27 AM EST

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MSM suck ups (none / 0)
I heard all the fawning the MSM did over the speech, it doesn't mean I agree with it.  Yes she said everything she needed to say to "unify" the party which is good.  If that is the sole critera for judging the speech then I agree it was "a home run". 

However, beyond that point I thought it was rather weak and uninspiring.  It very much made me glad she did not win and was making the speech on Tuesday instead of Thursday. 

by alphasigmookie on 08/27/2008 12:56:26 AM EST

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Thank you, alpha! (none / 0)

 

I thought I was alone out here in the "WTF are you talking about, great speech?" wilderness.

Hope you brought the beer. Gonna be a loooong night...

by MedfordTim on 08/27/2008 02:13:48 AM EST

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I'm on the no big deal side (none / 0)
You are not alone Medford. I too thought it was whatever.  She didn't really build a strong case in that speech. Not impressed.  I'm surprised by all the positive reaction. Strange.

David

by yturks on 08/27/2008 03:26:14 AM EST

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My reaction (none / 0)

was... ok, but I'm not some deranged Hillary supporter so I am not the audience.  I'll have to see how it plays with the ladies.

I was happy she attacked McCain some but would have liked to see more.

Was disappointed she did not explicitly state McCain is dedicated to overturning Roe v. Wade.

Not sure why the dems pretend this issue does not exist.

by ProfRich on 08/27/2008 02:50:14 PM EST

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Pissed off Hillary fans (none / 0)

I keep hearing from these Hillary supporters "Obama neeeds to reach out to us, or we aren't going to vote for him". What exactly does this mean? How the hell can he "reach out" even more?

 Quite frankly, I don't think he can do anything to satisfy these people. They are irrational; I have talked to them. My sister in law (whom I love), is one of these people. I have talked to her until I was blue in the face, and she will never vote for Obama because she is pissed Clinton didn't win. It doesn't matter Obama is more in line with her political ideology. She was "just in it for Hillary".

 

I just don't get these people.  

by jakewn on 08/27/2008 09:00:30 AM EST

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Well somebody at the Obama camp better... (none / 0)
I think it can be summed up like this for die hard Hillary people -

Why should we vote for Obama and simply not vote against McCain?

Obama has not given many people a reason to vote for him. He and his supporters are just out there selling their warm bucket of piss named "change", but they havent given the Hillary people nor the independents a lot to get excited about...

What has Obama done for them lately?

Plus, after last night, I think many of the Hillary supporters and a few of the Obama supporters realized that the Dems picked the wrong guy - it'll be very obvious when he loses close battle with Grandpa Death...

But you are right to say that many Hillary supporters will never be satisfied with Obama, no matter what he does or says - its kinda like asking a Red Sox fan to cheer for the Yankees - yeah, its the same game, but some lines shall never be crossed!

:)

by bobo1 on 08/27/2008 09:45:03 AM EST

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From the dept of bad analogies (none / 0)
Red Sox fans are diametrically opposed to Yankees fans.  The same SHOULD NOT be true for Obama people and Clinton people.

by jarett on 08/27/2008 02:18:34 PM EST

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SHOULD NOT be.. (none / 0)
But IS in fact true...

There are Hillary people and there are Barack people

They are diametrically opposed in many ways...

Not to say they cant hold their nose and vote for the other - but if they would have been on the ticket together then we wouldnt have had this issue, would we?...

:)

by bobo1 on 08/27/2008 02:29:16 PM EST

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bobo has been warning you since 2007 (none / 0)
and all you did was ridicule him. He told you that a house divided against itself cannot stand. What is the last possible date for Obama to name Hillary VP? Democrats are stoopid people.

by KenTX on 08/27/2008 02:33:27 PM EST

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Quick psychological analysis: (none / 0)

You're obsessions with smug people, snobs, and elitists show how insecure you really are.  Insecurity covered in a thick layer of ego and drowning in a few too many White Russians while clutching a gun and a picture of Ken in a heart shaped frame and mumbling something about Mexicans.  That's all I see when I read your posts nowadays.

Oh yeah, that and all the racism.  Can't forget the racism.  That shows the insecurity too.

Viva la revolucion!!! 

by Spencer on 08/27/2008 12:38:17 AM EST

Even quicker follow-up: (none / 0)

I realize I didn't really address the point of your thread, but there isn't much there to comment on, so I decided to talk more about the underlying themes of everything you post.

:) 

by Spencer on 08/27/2008 12:42:02 AM EST

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Biden (none / 0)

was a much, much better choice than Hillary.  If he chose Hillary, we would have heard nothing but "Bosnian sniper fire" every hour, on the hour, until election day.  Including from you.  Also, an Obama/Clinton ticket would be more vulnerable to the inevitable October Surprise than an Obama/Ridiculous-Foreign-Po licy-Credentials ticket. 

She gave a great, persuasive speech tonight, and I give her a lot of credit for it.  In fact, I donated a little to her for the first time.   That speech will have a much greater effect than an ordinary campaign commercial.  Those kind of things win and (not in this case) lose elections.

by jjpotter on 08/27/2008 12:38:56 AM EST

This is not about individuals (none / 0)
It is about the Democratic Party beating the Republicans, and anyone who isn't on board can leave the party, like Lieberman is.  If places were switched, and Obama's best chance of winning was foiled by a young upstart Hillary joining the race, I would get over it and work for Hillary.  She's young and can run again too!  The die-hard Hillary women who are threatening to vote for McCain are not necessarily a group full of intellectual giants.  They are sheep led by crazy people and republican rabble-rousers.  Do you really think Hillary is about to give up her political ambitions?  If you really love her, support her--god bless and go forward because I will be right beside you.  Oh, but I'm not a Hillary hater.  I don't really know any. 

by desertpear on 08/27/2008 01:14:46 AM EST

This makes me wonder. (none / 0)
Would bobo have voted for Hillary if she had won the nomination?

by Spencer on 08/27/2008 01:19:48 AM EST

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well she's white (none / 0)
but she IS a woman, so who knows how bobo would go

by desertpear on 08/27/2008 01:24:34 AM EST

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did you see Kucinich's speech bobo? (none / 0)
WOW. 

by desertpear on 08/27/2008 01:53:46 AM EST

No, I didnt... (none / 0)
unless you were watching some dedicated channel that didnt have commentators, NO ONE saw the Kucinich speech...

From what Ive seen here, it seemed OK (although I do have to skew my view because its left wing nutbags that are praising it)...

I like Kucinich - he speaks his mind and truly believes in what he says - Thats why he will never become a national figure...

Plus - lets be honest here - he's creepy! Its like they turned a muppet into a real person, but something got fucked up along the way!

:)

by bobo1 on 08/27/2008 09:38:50 AM EST

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I was away (none / 0)
so I watched it on CNN online, which has all the speeches.  I just thought you would like it, to be honest.  I haven't been a huge Kucinich fan, but I was impressed by his straight talk.

by desertpear on 08/27/2008 01:29:03 PM EST

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you are right, bobo (none / 0)

Kucinich is creepy.

But his wife makes him look like a Norman Rockwell painting by comparison.

I am sorry but I have never seen a politician's wife look more like a strung out, burned out stripper in my life.

I got nothing against Dennis the Menace but I gotta call it like I see it.

by ProfRich on 08/27/2008 03:01:41 PM EST

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but (none / 0)

He looks like a friendly Keebler elf to me!  Poor short guys get no slack, it's true.  I don't think his wife is that bad!!  But you can go vote on the Open Thread ;)

by desertpear on 08/27/2008 03:13:46 PM EST

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I'm totally confused Bobo (none / 0)
I just cut wind and took a deep breath - does that make me smug?  FTR, I only turned on Hillary when she decided to go nasty. 

by rev24 on 08/27/2008 01:55:19 AM EST

What nonsense! (none / 0)

 

Keep this nonsense up and we'll have to change your niv from Bobo to Dippy,

Maybe you haven't noticed, but since FEBRUARY this has been Obama's to win or lose. Hillary was a roadbump, nothing more. Only someone steeped in Right Wing mythology would even consider blaming Hillary if Barack loses.

And only someone who wants Obama to LOSE would want to see Hillary on the ticket. She would bring out the Republican vote faster than a clone of Reagan.

It has ALWAYS been up to Obama. Try to keep up, will you?

Now it's time for OBAMA haters to Shut The Fuck Up and get on board. Hint hint.

 

by MedfordTim on 08/27/2008 02:09:57 AM EST

You're dreaming Tim (none / 0)
His place in life is to stand on the side of the track and screech at the trains going by.  He never gets on board one.

by bfaul on 08/27/2008 05:00:05 PM EST

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Wow (none / 0)
You did an amazing job here of posting completely unsubstantiated shit.  Your sterling performance in this forum continues.

She just did everything she could have possibly been expected to to bolster up Obama, propping him on HER SHOULDERS to win this election.

No she didn't.  What speech did you watch?

Hillary has exonerated herself from any responsibility on their behalf

This is not how someone "bolsters" a candidate.  Make up your mind, chucklenuts.

http://www.nd.edu/~jdeange2 /images/hugerollvomit.gif

by jarett on 08/27/2008 02:20:32 AM EST

good speech (none / 0)
A little too long, which made it lose some of the beginning impact IMHO.  Bobo, I can't even make the connection between her speech and what you are saying.  Hillary forgives Obama; why can't you?  ;)   I thought it was sweet that Bill was crying during her speech.  She sure looked good tonight in that mind-blowingly orange pantsuit, and she is a fighter, that's for sure.  I'm happy with the Obama-Biden team though.  100% behind it.

by desertpear on 08/27/2008 02:43:12 AM EST

Bobo doesn't know what the hell he wants (none / 0)

Sometimes Bobo looks out for the free speech interests of his fellow man.  But woe unto those who speak ill of his special ladyfriend, Hillary Clinton.  If don't shut up, he'll shut you up.  In the name of free speech.

 

by OneHitKill on 08/27/2008 03:52:39 AM EST

Good, now maybe you'll STFU as well (none / 0)
One can hope

by MRFred on 08/27/2008 09:21:55 AM EST

Nah... (none / 0)
Now Fred, you know that it would be impossible to shut me up...

Just dont use the force on me like you do some others - that would be a real shame....

:)

by bobo1 on 08/27/2008 09:35:36 AM EST

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Aw..my birthday is coming up... (none / 0)

I was hoping.

just don't use the force on me like you do some others - that would be a real shame....

 

 Now bobo... I find your lack of faith disturbing.

 

by MRFred on 08/27/2008 09:58:09 AM EST

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Portrait of a Badass (none / 0)
The Force is handy, but I prefer to charge at my adversaries, blades spinning.

by OneHitKill on 08/27/2008 10:29:53 AM EST

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A lot of things disappeared down that black hole (none / 0)
quite a few careers...and Disney's huge..at the time..investment.  of course now we have black holes, super massive black holes, magnetars ....

by MRFred on 08/27/2008 01:33:17 PM EST

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Kucinich needs to reach out to the Hillary voters (none / 0)
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I suspect that this whole “conflict” has been manufactured by the media.  The media has definitely overblown the whole thing.  Look how McCain and Romney acted towards each other in their Primaries.  They literally hate each others guts but I never hear how McCain needs to reach out and heal the Romney voters.

 

But lets assume that this rift is real…

 

I would guess that half of the alleged 20% Hillary voters who won't back Obama were Republican's voting in open primaries with the hope of motivating their base against Clinton in the General election.  The remaining are either racists or just plain hysterical (yes I said the “h”-word) because there is NO rational reason for a Clinton supporter to vote for McCain.  None!

 

Regarding the hysterical people in the mix…it is not about Barack. These people would have been pissed with whomever got the nomination.  In a Just world the Hillary supporters would now be saying, "Kucinich is not showing the proper respect to women or Clinton."  "Kucinich needs to reach out to Hillary voters or else"

 

Lets face it Clinton represents more of the same.  Most people are sick of the idea of a continuing Bush/Clinton dynasty in the White House.   Our country needs something different and Barack Obama fits the role perfectly.  Hell, I would vote for Ficus over McCain or Clinton.  And as a rational person, I would vote for Clinton in a second over any Republican.  

 

by eddiedingle on 08/27/2008 11:45:58 AM EST

Hilary, herself, told you shut the fuck up! (none / 0)
Hilary did not shove Obama into the spotlight, he earned every ounce of his success.  HILARY LOST!  Those of you so self absorbed that you can't let it go need to shut the fuck up!  Hilary gave a great speech because she realizes what is at stake this election.  If your pride is preventing you from thinking realistically about the nature of the primaries and now the election than you deserve the proverbial fall.  Also, Biden has ten times the experience that Hilary has, Obama made the right choice so quite your bitching.

by Meme Magus on 08/27/2008 01:18:42 PM EST

Why are we playing their game? (none / 0)
1. the only ones who hate Hillary are Repuglicans
2. who is the GOP to be running ads about women's issues against the Dems, they are the worst on those issues
my new name for them Greedy Old Perverts

my post about how we are being suckered into a fake debate with these hypocrits AGAIN http://www.theyoungturks.co m/story/2008/8/27/12561/913 5

by callisto on 08/27/2008 01:42:07 PM EST

Republicans love us some Hillary. (none / 0)
She is a one-woman wrecking ball. I wish McCain would put her on the ticket. If Democrats are smart (and they aren't), Obama would announce he is moving Biden to AG, and Hillary to VP. This is the last chance to avert disaster.

by KenTX on 08/27/2008 02:25:15 PM EST

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"if democrats are smart" (none / 0)
Never trust Republicans bearing advice to Democrats.

by desertpear on 08/27/2008 02:58:07 PM EST

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Hmm.... (none / 0)

Ken before Obama was nominated: "I want Barack to get the nod.  Anything to stop Hillary!"

Ken after Obama was nominated: "I wish Hillary was John McCain's VP."

Call me crazy, but I think you're being a touch dishonest here. 

by Spencer on 08/27/2008 06:53:50 PM EST

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Spence, your'e scaring me. (none / 0)
Who are you? Dave Kohler? You remember every post and every clip from the show. You're kinda freakin me out here. Yes, I voted for Obama in the Texas primary. I thought he would be much easier to beat, and it turns out I was right. I don't care if we run Satan for VP. I just want my tax cuts.

by KenTX on 08/27/2008 07:23:44 PM EST

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@kenTX (none / 0)

Politico has a story out today about how Joe Biden is feared by the McCain camp:

Democrat Barack Obama's selection of Joe Biden as a running mate is complicating Republican John McCain's analysis of his prospective vice presidential contenders...

..."McCain knows Biden well. He knows how good he is as a knife fighter. He'll take McCain apart," said one Republican operative.

by Lib on 08/27/2008 07:29:47 PM EST

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Ken's transparent style (none / 0)

Both Obama and Biden are deeply feared by the Republicans.  The Obama fear was wearing off, but now the pitbull is on board.  Go get em Joe!!!  A good old-fashioned Irish Catholic with more foreign policy experience than all the potential Republican VPs put together.  McCain is in a real bind.  Did you see him trembling and sweating yesterday in that one clip?  It looked like the cognitive dissonance was kicking into high gear. 

Ken, I don't know who you think falls for your third-grade tactics.  Maybe on your PUMA blog, since you are just blogging with other provocateurs there.

by desertpear on 08/28/2008 12:16:44 AM EST

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Wait... (none / 0)
John McCain is still around?  I thought he retired or something.  Haven't seen him for awhile now.

by Spencer on 08/28/2008 12:19:06 AM EST

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Grampa Death (none / 0)

He's not gone for good.

He just has to return to his rejuvenation chamber and lie on soil from Transylvania once a moon cycle.

Don't worry though, bobo, the pubs make sure the virgin blood required for his sustenance only comes from states like Idaho and Utah that are so red they support the rape and murder of American girls in the name of profit and tax cuts like the GOP.

by ProfRich on 08/28/2008 12:39:39 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Please (none / 0)
You were never a Hillary supporter.  Why the hell should you care?

by bfaul on 08/27/2008 01:50:13 PM EST

poor bobo (none / 0)
A failed Republican provocateur. 

by desertpear on 08/27/2008 02:14:14 PM EST

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what a sad little tantrum... (none / 0)

Really monkey boy? Really...?

The worst part is that people entrust their kids to you...

by pictman on 08/27/2008 03:13:52 PM EST

My kids know the truth... (none / 0)
And how to sift through the lies that people like you would like them to believe...

Thats my job and I am good at what I do!

:)

by bobo1 on 08/27/2008 03:18:17 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Lawton Smalls (none / 0)
dude you're creepy... (I use the term dude very loosely here)

by pictman on 08/27/2008 03:28:41 PM EST

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