Hillary's ho-hum speech

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Dick Pollman has it right, Hillary still can't bring herself to wholeheartedly endorse Barack Obama.

Dick Pollman said it best, so far as I have seen:

It was little more than a generic party endorsement; in essence, she said merely that her followers should fall in line behind Obama because he is a Democrat, she is a Democrat, they are all Democrats, and the bad guys are Republicans.

He doesn't just make the claim, he backs it up with lots of examples:

She pointedly lauded running mate Joe Bidn as "a strong leader, a good man...he's pragmatic, he's tough, and he's wise." Take a guess who was not described as strong or good or pragmatic or tough or wise.
She didn't try to steal the show, or put herself up on a pedestal, to be sure, but she never really said what I wanted to hear.

During the primary, Hillary praised John McCain repeatedly, explicitly and unabashedly.  That was just plain wrong, both morally and pragmatically.  Whether intentional or not, Hillary insulted all Democrats, both Barack supporters and non-supporters alike.  She should have appologized for that, proclaimed it as a mistake, and segued into ripping McCain a new one.

She could have run together a breif laundry list of McCains most glaring shortcomings, and spewed them out with enough distain in her voice to make clear how sick and disgusting she finds the notion of a McCain presidency.

But that's not what she said, nor what she meant to say.  Hillary had only nice, polite, respectful words for John McCain.  She may disagree with McCain on policy, but as a man she still seems to prefer him over Barack.

Hillary has every right to her own opinions, but let's not pretend she hit a home run with that speech.  I would call it a ho-mun single at best.
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I totallty 100% disagree (none / 0)

I thought her speech kicked ass.  I think that the pundits are simply looking for any reason to say that the dems are NOT motivational.

Now watch them drool over every Repub speech next week.

She made the point that she needed to make.  If you voted for me and then vote for McCain you are STUPID!

That speech made me totally respect Hillary again.  I always respected her, thought she got a raw deal from the misogynists in this country ever since she came into a national spotlight in the 1990s.  Just because I liked Barack better doesn't mean I don't respect her.

She rocked!  :)

by blueheartinaredstate on 08/27/2008 04:14:32 PM EST

so true (none / 0)

Now watch them drool over every Repub speech next week.

This is true.  I'm curious what their message will be this year.  I think the "you'd better be scared shitless of the turrorists" theme is wearing a little thin. 

We are about to find out if Americans are more frightened of terrorism or bankruptcy. 

 

by bfaul on 08/27/2008 05:12:10 PM EST

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Not ho hum (none / 0)
As I said in another post, the speech was a B+.  Her effort to rally the troops around Obama/Biden was mediocre.  But her call to Hillary '16 was deafening.  Regardless, she did have some comments about McCain.  Remember "No way, no how, no McCain"?  Or how about the Twin Cities joke?

She obviously feels her party is the stronger party and the best to lead this country.  That's what the speech was about.  To her, Obama is the means to satisfying those principles.

"Like lipstick on a pig"

by TJD on 08/27/2008 04:35:51 PM EST

DigiDave's Point (none / 0)

Dave has a point.  I've been wanting and waiting myself for the Dems and surrogates to attack, wisely, but failing that, attack anyway they can.  The republicans have done so much that lying (as they do) is not necessary.

 But, realizing that everbody has been up to date, the speech was vetted by all top officials, from Obama on down.  I can't help but believe that they themselves did not think of how NOT READY McCain is, and how much good it would do if Hilliary humbled herself and took back some of her primary rhetoric.  But, I find it hard to believe it was not brought up among them as they finished vetting. 

Obama did not organize every state on one, two and five dollar donations and not think of how and when to attack McCain.  He does not have 7 or 11 homes (which ever is correct,) he has but one home.  He knows the value of being strong but humble as the everyday people.

He is very intelligent and quick thinking; he does not wear his CV on his shirt-sleave as do many, many of the republicans in politics. 

by Lennilenape on 08/27/2008 06:51:43 PM EST

What else could she have said? (none / 0)
That Barack Obama is the strongest possible opponent to McCain? He isn't - she was. That he is ready to take thew reigns of a government that's out of control? He's Not - she was. I mean, we all know the Clintons are proven liars, but they only lie when it serves their interests, and lying to promote Obama doesn't help her in 2012 when she'll beat McCain for the job! :)

by bobo1 on 08/27/2008 08:06:01 PM EST

Huh? (none / 0)

Why do you love Hillary so much all of the sudden?  You supported Edwards, remember?  Maybe you just love her now because that's the complete bullshit dialogue being pushed by the righties and your father figure (Ken) at the moment.

by Spencer on 08/27/2008 08:23:21 PM EST

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I always liked Hillary over Obama (none / 0)
When it came down to just them... She is more qualified. She is stronger on issues. She would have creamed McCain without all of this Drama. She would have picked Obama for VP and they would have laid waste to the Republican party for the next 20 years... But NO! You "Progressives" had to have your Obama - now McCain has a legitimate shot at winning and Hillary will be your nominee in 2012... And now you "progressives" are realizing that Obama is just like Clinton in terms of "politics as usual" Maybe that's what she wanted all along... :)

by bobo1 on 08/27/2008 08:33:40 PM EST

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GET OVER IT, BOBO (none / 0)
Your glowing description of Hillary doesn't change the fact that, given a fighting chance, she still lost.  You and your PUMA buddies are an unproductive bunch of sore losers.  Update your priorities.  For all intents and purposes, Hillary was never a candidate.

by OneHitKill on 08/27/2008 09:51:53 PM EST

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She Lost... (none / 0)
because you true believer LEFTISTS convinced enough of your brain dead bretheren that she and her supporters were some sort of racists and wouldnt promote the "change" you thought Obama could.

Come to find out, Obama and Hillary probably arent that different, and now you are literally in the fight of your life struggling against an old creep who should have been dispatched in June...

I hope it goes well for you when he loses - I will savor the downfall...

And it was totally avoidable - but NO - you "progressives had to pick him over her...

:)

by bobo1 on 08/27/2008 10:56:09 PM EST

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This attitude is: (none / 0)
Counterproductive.  Petty.  Pointless.

by OneHitKill on 08/27/2008 11:29:17 PM EST

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Right Klebold... (none / 0)

Spare me all the "I will savor the downfall..." bullshit.  You sound like an angsty teenager.  (Cue you making some joke about how you teach angsty teenagers)

Viva la revolucion!!!  Death to the Liberal Illuminate!!!

by Spencer on 08/27/2008 11:42:09 PM EST

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I love that signature. (none / 0)

by desertpear on 08/27/2008 11:57:29 PM EST

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SOUR GRAPES (none / 0)

Man, Jayar would hate your attitude.  Look, you are either a Republican, Democrat, or something else that doesn't really matter this election.  Based on your racialist remarks on the forum, I assume your problem with Obama is that he is of mixed race.  But seriously, what about the issues bobo?  Does that count for anything?  Or are you just going to insist on voting for a person you can drink beer with?  I like Hillary too, but of what use is it to keep crying over spilled milk??????    ;

By the way, if Obama loses, it will be me whining, bitching, and moaning.  ;)

 

by desertpear on 08/27/2008 11:56:52 PM EST

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