Let's Check in on the "Negative Bounce"

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Our resident Republican propaganda tool Ken "history will remember American Liberals of the early 21 century as the most vile, worthless bunch of cocksuckers who ever lived in this country" TX recently reported, perhaps a little too hastily and disingenuously, on Obama's "Negative Bounce" from the Democratic National Convention.  Of course, as many pointed out to him, there is usually a slight delay between an event and its effect on the polls.  Shall we check in today?

 

 

 

From Gallup:

"The latest three-day Gallup Poll Daily tracking average (Aug. 25-27) is directly coincident with the first three days of the Democratic National Convention in Denver, and is no doubt beginning to reflect the typical convention "bounce" that Gallup has observed in most party conventions in recent decades. There is a lag of sorts involved in the daily tracking; interviewing is conducted in most parts of the country before that evening's high-focus speeches have taken place. Thus, the current three-day average would reflect any impact of Monday night's speech by Michelle Obama, and Tuesday night's speech by Hillary Clinton, but would not completely reflect Wednesday night's lineup of speakers, such as John Kerry, former President Bill Clinton, and vice presidential nominee Joe Biden, nor the appearance on stage at the end of the evening by Barack Obama himself....there is already a six percentage point bounce evident in the data, although the final "official" post-convention bounce used in comparison with other recent conventions will not be tabulated by Gallup until interviewing for Friday through Sunday is completed (reported next Monday on gallup.com)."

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I can't wait to see it after they take all of Wednesday into account (because it was great) and Thursday as well (because it promises to be).

by Spencer on 08/28/2008 04:32:42 PM EST


Hey Spencer, wait for the frigging bounce after Obama speaks tonight.  He will bring down the house.  History is in the making.

by psyche2 on 08/28/2008 05:50:55 PM EST

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I hope/suspect you're right.

by Spencer on 08/28/2008 05:55:17 PM EST

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Strange silence from the peanut gallery.

by desertpear on 08/28/2008 06:05:16 PM EST

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Unlike you desk surfers and web trolls, I and a few others of us actually have to get up and interact with real humans eventually...

:)

by bobo1 on 08/28/2008 06:37:33 PM EST

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after preparing our house for the hurricane. At this point, Obama's bounce looks smaller than John Kerry's. I still remember the massive Dukakis bounce in 1988.

by KenTX on 08/28/2008 07:58:43 PM EST

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negative bounce.

What happened, Ken?

Also, my best regarding your home.  Seriously.  Batten those hatches down.

by jarett on 08/29/2008 02:44:43 AM EST

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sorry about the shoe joke in the other thread then.  hope you just get a little rain instead.

by desertpear on 08/29/2008 03:05:41 AM EST

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Always good to see you out there slugging!  Q:  You know who we never hear from?   A:  The common-sense republican.  There are many out there.  The name-callers like KenTx and booboo1 (or is that boohoo1, boboo1, bootynone, bobo1?  I'll get that right soon)  Anyway, the name-callers always shout over them with their "witty" foul mouths.

I remember when Rush had his "America Under Seige" show going, back in the very early 90s.  He used to say about the Dems;  "Stay away from them, their ugly, mean, never smile -- they'll bring you down!"  And, even then, if a republican (that's all he ever allows on unless he wants to try to trick them) came on and asked why he was so negative and so divisive, he'd out-shout them and crumble his paper in front of the mic to show his anger.

And, guess what, we have 30% of American dittoheads that can't help themselves but swear and call filthy names to those who would disagree with them.  KenTx comes to mind; to a lesser degree bob o1 doing the same when he's not kissing Ken's posterior. 

by Lennilenape on 08/29/2008 12:07:58 AM EST

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Have they been brain-washed? 

by desertpear on 08/29/2008 03:07:20 AM EST

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The point is that Obama and McCain shouldnt be within striking distance of each other in the first place - this Convention speech should have put Obama 30 points ahead, but alas it might get him 8-10 points ahead
 
The mere fact that the worthless McCain is still this close speaks volumes about Obamas credibility as a viable winnable candidate!!!

:)

by bobo1 on 08/28/2008 06:36:28 PM EST

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"this Convention speech"?  Meaning the one that hasn't happened yet?  I think he will get a more significant bounce after Wednesday and Thursday are taken into account in the polls (as I said in my first comment).  The "convention bounce" doesn't happen immediately, so slow your roll son.

by Spencer on 08/28/2008 06:45:30 PM EST

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Hey Spence:  I heard, on the "Sean Hannity Show," today that the Mason Dixon Poll shows McCain pulling even with Obama, 46 to 45.  What?  The "Mason Dixon Poll?"

Good grief. 

He said too, that the majority who participate in this poll is Florida speaking up.  That was it on his poll for the day -- he didn't mentioned any other poll showing McCain gaining.

...whatever. 

by Lennilenape on 08/29/2008 12:24:59 AM EST

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when Obama wins?

by jarett on 08/29/2008 02:43:43 AM EST

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He's not gonna win...

What are YOU going to say when he loses?

:)

by bobo1 on 08/29/2008 08:50:58 AM EST

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If McCain picks Lieberman, I WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA and make sure he wins...

Other than that, Obama wont win...

:)

by bobo1 on 08/29/2008 09:38:26 AM EST

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I just saw a couple flash messages on the IM by bobo.  He, strangely, admitted that Obama's speech was okay, alright; words to that effect.  They go by so fast.

by Lennilenape on 08/28/2008 11:38:28 PM EST

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The speech was OK - it wasnt great, it wasnt mystifying and magical, but it was OK...

Everyone will stop talking about it today when McCain picks his VP and that hurricane hits Nawlins' again...

I see a 6-8 point initial bounce for Obama, nothing more.... he should be kicking Grandpa Deaths ASS!!!

But hes not...

:)

by bobo1 on 08/29/2008 08:55:04 AM EST

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That would include the following.

Full impact of Biden pick.

Full impact of Michelle speech.

Two days (out of three day average) of Hillary speech.

One day of Biden speech.

None of Obama speech.

Polling that shows the full impact of the convention should be the Monday poll.  Of course that will be a bit muddled with any Palin bounce McCain might get.

Incidentally, I know its convention bounce but McCain fell to 41 today, only two more points to the thirties.  Lets see if Obama's beat down last night gets him there.

Obama pushed up to 49.  One more to get to 50, two more to break 50.  I know its post-convention stuff so it is a bit of a high water mark and slightly artificial but it will be interesting to chart Obama and McCain's high lows next Friday at the same point in the RNC.

by ProfRich on 08/29/2008 02:44:09 PM EST

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You mean KenTX was wrong?

I'm shocked, SHOCKED!

Actually, no I'm not.

by Jeremydium on 08/28/2008 04:56:31 PM EST


Any time Ken posts a graph that shows poll numbers, pay special attention to the time frame.  If the data is recent, you can bet that the time frame is narrow.  If  the time frame isn't narrow, you can bet that the data is about as current as a re-run of Falcon Crest.  His tendency to cherry-pick the particular sliver of data that supports his wishful thinking is as regular as clockwork.  There are no corrective lenses nor laser procedures that can correct such myopia.

by OneHitKill on 08/28/2008 10:01:53 PM EST

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"There are no corrective lenses nor laser procedures that can correct such myopia."

That's because he suffers from "optical dispropasia", a condition where the brain is smaller than the eyeball.

by bfaul on 08/29/2008 09:42:12 AM EST

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AND, to add to those conditions you point out, he's seems helplessly delusional!

by Lennilenape on 08/29/2008 01:03:58 PM EST

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