09/18/2008 10:25:51 PM EST

OBAMA TAKES LEAD IN INDIANA!

posted by chrisandyasemin

All historical references should now be thrown out.  Obama is about to win Indiana in this election.  He's been running ads in between Seinfeld and Simpsons.  He knows Hoosiers, and Hoosiers know he's going to at least TRY to reopen the Ford plant that got shut down here.

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I  had noticed that Obama had been running a shitload of ads here, and McCain hadn't run hardly any.  It's seriously been 6/1 Obama ads to McCain ads.  This trend will continue to unfold across other "Red States" if the media covers this correctly.  I have talked to a lot of self-titled "fucking rednecks" and they call the republicans stupid now.  The people that the republicans took advantage of for so long through the exploitation of their religious beliefs have finally realized that they were being used, and that most Republican leaders don't act Christian. 

Working Class America has woken up. 

Chris
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OBAMA TAKES LEAD IN INDIANA! | 24 comments (24 topical, 0 hidden)
yay! (none / 0)
Its something I never thought I would see


by Chinese Democracy on 09/18/2008 10:47:39 PM EST

Not gonna happen, Chris... (none / 0)
Sorry, hate to be the naysayer, but Obama doesnt win Indiana - way too many rednecks and farmers in the rural areas to compensate for the declining urban populations...

He might be up now, but Indiana stays red in Novemeber...

Try Colorado - y'all have a much better shot there...

:)

by bobo1 on 09/18/2008 11:25:47 PM EST

not so sure (none / 0)

I live in a little redneck town in Indiana myself, (called Elwood, I imagine Chris is familiar with this town's reputation) and I have seen several Obama signs and no McCain signs as of yet.

I don't think I would bet on a blue Indiana, but it is well within the realm of possibility.

by richardshort2001 on 09/18/2008 11:42:38 PM EST

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I live here (none / 0)
The racist vote won't turn out.  They're not motivated enough.  In fact, the KKK wants Obama to win, because they think it will increase their enrollment.  If you haven't forgotten, Evan Bayh is a Democrat.  Obama is carrying the WHOLE state right now, and he has insanely organized teams in the the largest cities in the state.  The definition of "likely" voter has nothing to do with whether they've voted before, it's "how motivated are they to vote?"  All of the Hoosiers that weren't motivated to vote democrat in the Kerry/Gore election, have lost their jobs/homes under the bush they put into office.  They're not that stupid.
Seriously, if there are Obama signs in Elwood, Indiana, then Obama has already won.  Traditionally, if you are black in Indiana, you stay in 5 cities:Bloomington, Gary, Fort Wayne, Lafayette, or Indianapolis.  These are basically the only "black friendly" cities in this state.  People won't shoot you, but they will treat you like a second class citizen if you go to any other city.  Black parents literally warn their kids about not stopping in Martinsville.  Now, what' I'm trying to tell you that in a state that went about 48 to 52 in the Kerry election, getting 1-2 percent in Elwood, Indiana will make ALL the difference in this state.  The fact that Obama took the lead at all in Indiana means that it's in play, but the fact that i've seen the ground game of Obama here/the ad campaign vs. the non-existent ground campaign of mccain you would understand that Obama is going to win.  You see, Hillary ran an AWESOME ground game in Indiana.  She was matching Obama flyer for flyer.  The election here was hillary by 2.  You see my point yet???

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 09/19/2008 12:02:04 AM EST

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that was a response to Bobo (none / 0)
not richard. 
for some reason it put the comment there.

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 09/19/2008 12:03:33 AM EST

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its in the right place (none / 0)
it's indented properly for response to bobo

by hazmat on 09/19/2008 12:15:30 AM EST

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It's not a good bet (none / 0)
But it IS possible.  South Bend is definitely not representative of the state, but it is definitely HIGHLY pro-Obama.

We'll see.

by jarett on 09/19/2008 02:06:05 AM EST

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Let's make this interesting (none / 0)
If Obama wins indiana, bobo has to go outside and hug a tree.  I'm talking about a bear hug, maybe wear a rainbow jacket while doing it...

are you that confident bobo??

by chrisandyasemin on 09/19/2008 02:30:46 AM EST

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If Obama wins Indiana... (none / 0)
I'll go out and fuck that tree...

Thats how confident I am that he doesnt win Indiana...

Mark it here, folks...

:)

by bobo1 on 09/19/2008 08:33:03 AM EST

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Note of caution (none / 0)
If there's a hole in the tree it may have been made by carpenter ants.  They're not particularly aggressive but they may not be able to pass up such an easy meal, so check first.

by bfaul on 09/19/2008 10:19:30 AM EST

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I appreciate your concern... (none / 0)
But I know its never gonna happen, cause Obama isnt winning Indiana!

:)

by bobo1 on 09/19/2008 10:34:44 AM EST

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Tree (none / 0)
A termite hole would be too big for bobo. He would have to move side to side to get any friction. There probably aren't any holes small enough.

by psyche2 on 09/19/2008 04:02:45 PM EST

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Probably more like a mini snack than a meal (none / 0)

by psyche2 on 09/19/2008 04:03:44 PM EST

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I feel bad for the tree (none / 0)

by rbruck on 09/19/2008 11:03:43 AM EST

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I would too... (none / 0)
It'll never stand straight again I tell you!!!

:)

by bobo1 on 09/19/2008 11:42:32 AM EST

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i'm gonna remember this... (none / 0)
better get some condoms made of bark...

by chrisandyasemin on 09/19/2008 12:55:14 PM EST

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Chris, I find it hard to believe! (none / 0)

I can hardly accept that a person (bobo) is willing to bet the farm merely on the belief that "...rednecks and farmers" will be the difference in this political race.  I DO beleive that rednecks and farmers hold the balance of votes in this 'farming/agricultural state.'  But, that is not how bobo is using his meaning of rednecks and farmers.

Unfortunately, we all know what bobo really means; and there is that percentage.  I've only visited there, but based on my visits, I believe strongly on the way you describe it Chris.  

by Lennilenape on 09/19/2008 02:25:23 PM EST

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SWEET SWEET TREE LOVIN' (none / 0)

by jarett on 11/05/2008 08:29:17 AM EST

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Bush won Indiana 60 to 39 in 2004 (none / 0)
So technically for Obama to have taken the lead in Indiana is a sign that this is the perfect storm situation for Obama to take the state.  I had a suspicion that he would take the state after the primary.  I'll admit it was wishful thinking then, but I am thinking clearly on this one.  Even if it's close in Indiana, this state is in play, and Obama's taken the advantage.  To quote bobo,"Indiana is Obama's to lose".
Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 09/19/2008 12:32:51 AM EST

Indiana is already a victory for Obama (none / 0)
I suspect that he probably won't take Indiana, although this isn't a certain given McCains apparent meltdown. They look like complete morons at this point.

The Obama campaign's goal in states like Indiana has already been realized - to make McCain expend resources in a state that was a lock for the GOP.

Mission accomplished.

Indiana is a red red red state. Taking Indiana would be a humilating kick to the crotch of the GOP. The Ultimate political smackdown.

"Say my name. Obama. Say it."

by perdido619 on 09/19/2008 04:44:01 AM EST

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You're Right! (none / 0)
 
Here's last week's ad spending, compared to that from June 3 to July 26, in thousands:
 
                Last Week          June-July
             McCain  Obama     McCain   Obama
Alaska..................... .............None........88
Colorado.........553.....52 2.....1,104......802
Florida..........1,040..1,3 27......None...5,028
Georgia.................... .............None...1,824
Indiana..........None....26 3.......None...1,268
Iowa................352...1 48.........946......700
Michigan...........761...95 4......2,655...2,240
Minnesota........472.....18 .........575........70
Missouri...........353...50 4......1,600....1,246
Montana........None.....37. ......None.......136
North Carolina..245...300.......N one....1,620
North Dakota.......1....22....... ....71.......157
New Hampshire.225..172......... 342.......391
New Mexico......214..155....... ..440.......260
Nevada............365..297. .....1,134.......633
Ohio................812..80 1......2,568....2,486
Pennsylvania..1,612..948... ...4,602....3,937
Virginia............312..86 8......1,509....2,660
Wisconsin........487..432.. ....1,426....1,198

It would appear that the McCain campaign was hoping not to have to spend any money in Indiana.  But with the current polls, it looks like they are going to have to use some of their resources there.

Part of the magic of running these campaigns is to force your opponent to spend money defending states that they think should be "safe", and then they cannot spend as much money in the battleground states.  This is a particularly critical issue this year, since the McCain campaign spending is limited by public financing.

Obama plans to spend $39 million in Florida.  I hope he reserves some of that money to making the polls more accessible to black, latino and Jewish voters.  If people can get to the polling booth, and if the votes are counted fairly, then Obama will win in Florida.  But it is unlikely that can happen.

It is a chess game.
 

by rbruck on 09/19/2008 12:46:52 AM EST

Obama is on the ball (none / 0)
They've been planning this from day 1.  Trust me, they got record turnouts for indiana primaries, and they were DIRECTLY responsible.  The Obama camp will literally be shuttling people to vote early every day.  In Bloomington, they had a shuttle that went to city hall and back every half an hour so people could vote EARLY in the primaries, even if they didn't have vehicles.  Seeing made me believe, not vice versa. 

I've lived in Indiana my whole life, and I've never entertained the idea until this election...

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 09/19/2008 01:12:21 AM EST

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I only have one thing to say (none / 0)

by jarett on 09/19/2008 02:00:48 AM EST

doubtful (none / 0)
but let's hope so

by instantlyyourbiggestfan on 09/19/2008 04:31:35 AM EST

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