The Irrefutable Stupidity of Sarah Palin

From time to time, I'll get into a debate with a right-winger about whether Sarah Palin is actually stupid or if liberals are just hopelessly biased against her. They claim this bias comes from the fact that liberals are scared of her electability, her charm, her looks, her femininity, her Christianity, her ability connect to the common man and her overall wonderfulness. So, the theory is that we have all collectively decided that she is the best Republican candidate in some secret liberal meeting and are conspiring against her because we are afraid of how brilliant and electable she really is.

Now, there are a couple of problems with this theory. There are no opinion leaders on the left with Rush Limbaugh-like authority who can command all other progressives to think the same thing and use the same arguments against one person. In other words, we all think she is stupid because she is in fact stupid, not because some liberal cabal told us to think that.

How come we don't call Newt Gingrich stupid? Or Dick Cheney or Kay Bailey Hutchinson or Elizabeth Dole or Dennis Hastert? And the list goes on and on of heinous and deplorable right-wingers who are not stupid. We don't make those charges against those people, because as much as we might not agree with them or like them, we know that they are not dullards. They're all clever in their own way. Mitt Romney is greasy, Michael Steele is a clown and Tom DeLay is dirty, but we don't go after their mental acuity like we do with Sarah Palin because they're not as dumb as her (not even Steele).

So, finally we get to the evidence. I thought I'd just do it here and be done with it. Then I can just point people to this post from now on and end this senseless argument.

Now, there are a million examples of this, but I thought I'd go with three knockout punches here. In the first video, we have the classic Bush Doctrine answer, where she does not know the basic foreign policy of the Republican president at the time. How could she possibly be running for vice president and not know this? The only thing more unconscionable is the sad excuses her supporters make for this terribly botched answer.

In the second video, we have a largely overlooked example of her pathetic lack of foreign policy knowledge. She has no idea what Hamas is or what they have to do with the Gaza Strip. If your next door neighbor or plumber doesn't know this, that's fine, but they weren't running for Vice President of the United States. This should be game set and match for anyone, especially self-respecting conservatives, thinking of supporting her. This is when you have to walk away embarrassed.

But remarkably, they didn't slink away embarrassed after this answer, so we have the latest example of her buffoonery. In this interview with Bill O'Reilly, he asks her if she is smart enough to be president. Her answer has to be seen to be believed. Don't get me wrong, just because you see it won't mean you'll understand it. So, I put a transcript of her answer below so that you can try to decipher it in your spare time.

Bill O'Reilly: Let me be very bold and fresh again, do you believe that you are smart enough, incisive enough, intellectual enough to handle the most powerful job in the world?

Sarah Palin: I believe that I am because I have common sense and I have I believe the values that I think are reflective of so many other American values, and I believe that what Americans are seeking is not the elitism, the uhm, the ah, a kind of spineless, spinelessness that perhaps is made up for that with some kind of elite, Ivy league education and, and a fat resume that is based on anything but hard work and private sector, free enterprise principles. Americans are could be seeking something like that in positive change in their leadership, I'm not saying that that has to be me.

Can anyone really be biased enough to think that was a smart answer? The great irony is that he asked her if she's smart enough to be president and she gave what might be her dumbest answer yet. That answer was so bad it almost made George W. Bush look smart. Can anyone in good conscience defend that answer and say with a straight face that she should be this country's leader?

If you say yes, then there is no sense in talking to one another anymore because we are not operating in the same reality, or planet. We'll never be able to agree on anything if we can't agree that was just about as incomprehensible and stupid an answer as you can possibly come up with. And that settles the debate, because you either live in the reality based world and realize she is obviously not qualified, or in the immortal words of Stephen Colbert you believe that "reality has a well-known liberal bias" and she would make a great president.

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...things you say in the second clip (how Sarah's answer supported Hamas as a democracy but showed disdain for [at the time, at least] democratically-elected Ahmadinejad, etc.), there is one further detail of irony;  Hamas is in many ways a proxy of Iran.  So Sarah condemned Iran but supported an organization essentially operated by...Iran.

More than this, she would almost surely give just about the same meandering answer if asked the same question today.  "Democracy" and "protecting Israel from extremist evil" remain solidly at the core of any Conservative answer about American policy, so I don't know why her answer would change if Ahmadinejad had given his New York speech this month.  Now, however, an even further irony is that she believes our own democratically-elected President is a fascist because he isn't doing enough things in exactly the way she would have done them.  Enacting the policies of the candidate who got the most votes, even if you don't like his policies--isn't that what democracy is?  Sarah today would give a speech about how precious our democracy is, and then she would trash Obama for circumventing our democratic system, even though he has precisely _used_ that system.

by Milltycoon on 12/07/2009 05:09:57 AM EST

..as a people that is. Ronnie wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed, he was a mouth piece for his handlers and backers. The difference is that Reagan knew his limitations and exploited his gifts.

Palin seems to be determined to exploit her limitations.

Run Sarah,run.

by Sock Puppet Fred on 12/07/2009 10:28:50 AM EST

why would we be afraid of the fact she is attractive? If I'm going to be forced to have a moron for a President, I'd at least like that moron to be a hot moron.

But the real problem is that conservatives don't realize how stupid she is (with some exceptions, like David Brooks). So, they assume, we must be making it up so they go looking for ulterior motives.

They think she is smart, so they assume when we say she is stupid we must just be trying to smear her; but the reality is, we just think she's stupid. 

by caelum on 12/07/2009 10:38:58 AM EST

"They think she is smart"

I don't think that is really it.   She's "got her mind right" so they excuse her stupidity.  With that bunch, you don't have to be smart, you just have to want to return the government to conservative control.

In that respect she sees the world like Rush Limbaugh, only she's female and attractive rather than fat, male, and balding.  She's one of them.   She was really set up by her speech at the RNC.   It was clearly written by someone else because it was far too coherent to be her writing, but it matched her tone perfectly.  I can't decide if the McCain campaign decision to write her speech in that tone was brilliant or horribly misguided.   I do know that up to that point she was an interesting anomaly to me, and after that speech I felt nothing but revulsion for her.  I also know McCain lost the election.   That speech resonated powerfully with the teabagger crowd and she has coasted on it ever since, but it also placed her squarely in their camp, and that limits her electability, you might even say it cripples it.   

by bfaul on 12/07/2009 11:30:19 AM EST

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We don't think she's stupid, we know she's stupid.

by CCF on 12/11/2009 06:41:16 PM EST

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Honestly I think Sarah Palin has ADHD. They way she can't finish a complete thought. The way interviews tend to ramble on to the point she can't remember the original question. All signs point to ADHD.

by Don Squeek on 12/07/2009 01:18:51 PM EST

honestly that does disservice to people with adhd. I've known people with adhd who are very intelligent. sarah is just not smart. she hasn't had to know anything in her life so she didn't learn anything. simple as that. the only reason the she's in contention is because mccain wanted to get the clinton votes by having a woman on board. the only reason she's still in contention is she uses the same republican code words bush used and sticking to his same guns by being a tough talking, lovable moron who may be on some sort of drugs. I'm waiting for "That's my Palin," to come on comedy central. it should happen.

by Mutt1126 on 12/07/2009 03:30:11 PM EST

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robin williams has adhd or add. he is entirely capable of forming complete and coherent sentences.

by kingbane on 12/07/2009 03:43:54 PM EST

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he is entirely capable of forming complete and coherent sentences.

Or, at least, he's incapable of forming a complete sentence without throwing in an impression of a gay hairdresser or a large black man.

by OneHitKill on 12/07/2009 07:54:44 PM EST

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MANY ADD'rs are highly intelligent.

In fact, I'm one of them (according to relevant test scores). 

I don't consider Sarah Palin to be intelligent or intellectual on any level. She is uglier and home-made-sin and just as stupid as she is ugly. Even her mentality is ugly IMO.

Sarah spouts off about whatever comes to her feable, low-IQ mind without thinking of the consequences or whether or not there is any fact to that which she states.

Furthermore, Palin lacks integrity. Case and Point, when the review concluded that she mis-used her office (pardon MY Ignorance for neglecting to remember the committee name or actual factual findings) .. ..  she immediately stated on National News that the review committee concluded just the opposite .. that she was Innocent. I think she actually beleived herself which would also make her a pathological liar.

While I am sure there are millions of Idiots that really beleive she has what it takes to be a President (or even VP), but there aren't nearly enough votes, even from the Conservative faction to vote her into that or any other office. 

Sarah Palin is HISTORY. Her days are numbered. She will slowly but surely (and hopefully soon) fade into nothing .. to the point where no one will even remember her or admit they do. Palin is a gonner. 

by SnowTiger on 12/07/2009 08:05:36 PM EST

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I'd make a lousy politician.

If I were asked that "Are you smart enough, etc?" question, I would simply reply "Yes", and then shut up.

by RedPossum on 12/07/2009 01:23:54 PM EST

what about when she said "no one ever says anything about joe bidens experience."

by Mutt1126 on 12/07/2009 03:32:27 PM EST

And it was that line that finally swung me over to Cenk's (and others') plea for her to run.  No matter what happens, it would be fun to run against a living laugh machine like her.


The world is a strange place, but that makes it really fun to watch. -- bfaul

by EveningStarNM on 12/08/2009 03:59:55 AM EST

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Look, if the Republican's could vote for a dumb-ass like "W" for two terms, most of them could vote for Palin, too. Plus, you have to remember the law of relativity. To the stupid Moo's that stand in line to get Palin's book signed, she actually looks & sounds quite smart!! And compared to the illiterate fools that comprise the conservative party - she's light years ahead. I mean, look at how she recovered on that Bush Doctrine answer... that was a pretty good answer considering she had NO IDEA what the question was.

I've said it before, Democracy is no longer the best form of government. There should be some kind of test that people should take before voting (partly basic intelligence and partly current events). Based on your score, your vote should be weighted.  

The Presidential election continues to evolve towards some sort of American Idol contest. In the next 50 years I promise you that we'll be texting in our choice for President.

However, one thing to ease your mind.. if you think President runs the country or something you're out of your mind. Do you really think "Dim Bulb" Bush was actually running things?

by ilovecenk99 on 12/07/2009 03:42:57 PM EST

ever talk about her wacky ass religious affiliation  or the fact that she has been the keynote speaker 2 yrs in a row  at terrorist  secessionist organization  her hubby belongs to?

A conservative believes nothing should be done for the first time

by C D on 12/07/2009 05:07:16 PM EST

Over Thanksgiving dinner, I had this very debate with my sister and brother, and I used the first two examples Cenk cites, but to no avail.  They insisted, Palin isn't dumb, she was just didn't have enough time to prepare to be a national candidate, and that's why she sounded dumb, and anyone would have been unprepared thrust into the national spotlight so quickly.  Then they basically parroted Palin's own dumb answer to O'Reilly's question by saying that we've elected a bunch of smart people and they've screwed things up, so why not a regular person like Palin.

I left this discussion shocked, because my brother and sister are smart, educated people, and while I've heard plenty of right-wingers defending Palin on TV and radio, I haven't heard it in real life.  But the shocking inability to admit that Palin is dumb, within my own family, coming from people I know to be intelligent, really really surprised me.   These examples are clear and unambiguous to me, but they refused to see it.  When I pointed out she didn't know who Hamas was, they said, "she can learn stuff like that". I was exasperated.

Now, my brother is a dyed-in-the-wool right-winger.  He is super-religious, a Bush apologist and still maintains history will judge Bush to be a great president.  But he even admits that Bush isn't the sharpest tool in the shed--he just claims that Bush surrounded himself with "the right people like Cheney, Rice and Powell". Yeah.  So we can throw out my brother's view--he's the black sheep of the family.  But my sister is politically moderate, probably liberal-leaning, and even she jumped to Palin's defense.

I think Palin is the personification of America's anti-intellectualism.  America has always had this anti-intellectual streak that grew as an offshoot of anti-elitism from the colonial days but then took on a life of its own.  The common American (even many that are intelligent and successful) dislikes and distrusts intellectuals (being intelligent and being an intellectual are not the same thing).  So as a result, Americans gravitate toward leaders who demonstrate a LACK of intellectual rigor and ability, who REJECT structured, deliberate thinking in favor of empty folksy rhetoric.  In their minds, intellectuals have had a lot of power for a long time, and the world is still messed up, so let's give some "common people" a shot. Hence Bush, and now one step further, Palin.

After that discussion with my brother and sister, I walked away for the first time legitimately frightened that Palin could win the presidency.  It's depressing.  If my brother and sister can't see she's dumb, there can easily be enough people similarly blind to get her elected.

by mdavidboyd on 12/07/2009 07:30:35 PM EST

In their minds, intellectuals have had a lot of power for a long time, and the world is still messed up, so let's give some "common people" a shot. Hence Bush, and now one step further, Palin.

It's true, and this cracks me up.  If there ever was a spoiled, rotten, rich kid brat with connections who had everything handed to him on a silver platter, including a governorship and a presidency, it was George W. Bush Jr.

 

As incredible as it seems, Palin almost makes him seem smart.   I would not have thought it possible, but there it is.

by bfaul on 12/07/2009 09:31:31 PM EST

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Sarah Palin: The Birther Chronicles
Sarah Palin is running through nicknames so fast it's hard to keep up with her; must be the diet. From barracuda to teabagger, from quitter to birther; she bounces around like an over-caffeinated rogue elephant on the Tea Party Express. Don't forget your $16 for a picture of yourself rolling little balls of shit with the dung-diva, and be wary of those free to the public book signings - she'll make you pay to leave.

by gatekeeper50 on 12/07/2009 07:33:13 PM EST

OK, I'm not sure what your motive was behind your exchange with Ziegler the magical Palin salesman, but he said sooo many things you could've jumped on, and that prove for me how pathetically transparent SP supporters are in their quixotic defense of her. First off, he never once defended or explained SP, let alone answered your question. Notice that every time you asked him about her, he replied by bagging on Obama. And the only times he conceded something about SP was in reference to utterly meaningless trivialities, and in one of them he turned it into the awful Obama-teleprompter claim. "Obama's not qualified enough!" "Obama didn't run a state!" "Obama said this!" "Obama said that!" You should've said "I'm not talking about Obama, I called you here to discuss SP. I'm asking you about SP. Can you answer these questions about SP or not?" Every single one of his answers amounted to "it's someone else's fault". He sounded like a used car salesmen, literally. "Ah c'mon! Whattya cryin' about?! It's fine, trust me!"

Maybe you wanted the exchange to go this way to show how crazy those people are, but Ziegler was so defiantly indefensible and non-committal it's disgusting. These people apparently have never watched themselves argue, because they never make any points, they only try to redirect and pull curtains over issues. As if I wasn't already convinced by watching Palin herself talkeven outside the format of "liberal media interviews", Zielger confirms for me how bad of a candidate SP really is. The entire subtext of his argument, whether he would admit it or not (and I know he wouldn't), was that A) she wasn't ready, B) she was unqualified, C) when asked on national TV, gotcha question or not (which none of them were), she thought only of how to deflect and not to express whatever supposedly good, intelligent answer she had regardless of the situation, D) that she couldn't handle Katie Couric or Charlie Gibson (or by simple deduction certain foreign leaders/countries), E) should I go on? Asking her about the Bush Doctrine is a "gotcha" question? Asking her about shit from her own goddamn party platform and leadership is "gotcha"??

To make matters 100x worse, I had never seen the clip where SP made that reprehensible statement that intelligent people were the problem, that higher education was suspect, and that everyday joes were the answers simply because they "worked hard". Every time I get more information on this woman, I wouldn't go near her with a pole of increasingly unmanageable length. We're three years away from the next presidential term; we are truly F'd if a republican like SP gets into office. The experiment will be over. I've seen plenty from this woman to know she would run roughshod over everything, wouldn't listen to anybody, would stick her fingers in her ears for four years even more than Bush 2, and would spend us further into the elephantine (in more ways than one) financial oblivion that Republicans got us into. For apathetic voters, this is no longer about two milquetoast choices every two years; 1996 was the last time that happened. Now, it's about one OK choice (apparently), and one detrimentally bad one.

by paulang on 12/12/2009 11:46:53 AM EST

The Roe v Wade question during the Couric interview should have made the list. Ppl might give her a pass on the Hamas and Bush doctrine question, but abortion is supposed to be one of her flagship issues. How could she be clueless about something which she is supposed to care so much about?

She begins her answer by essentially coming out in favor of the decision made in Roe v Wade, and then in the very next sentence she reverses direction and talks about how she dis-agrees with the decision. If she does'nt know or understand her own feelings on abortion, then what the fuck can she possibly know?

The Hamas answer is really the only thing needed on the list though. Its the smoking gun. It is unthinkable that someone could be qualified to be vice president and still not know who Hamas is. She's grossly unqualified, case closed. 

by MetalFalsetto on 12/13/2009 09:13:34 PM EST

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