02/10/2009 02:50:42 PM EST

Spigzone, Cenk won't talk about oil depletion

posted by Landbeyond

Maybe Cenk is nervous because he thinks oil depletion is too fringe, or thinks it will keep him out of the MSM (including MSNBC). Or maybe he can't be bothered to get up off his hard, taught ass to do the basic research. Whatever the reason, Cenk will not respond to any question concerning the world's depleting oil fields. He'll stay behind the curve on probably the most important story out there. It's a great shame, given his talent for communication.

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Cenk likes to talk about keeping it real, and bringing out the true reasons for economic problems, but as long as the recession is masking the underlying problem of world oil depletion it seems he will play it safe by only speaking occasionally about energy independence or about drilling or not drilling. In this regard Cenk is in the company of politicians on all sides, as well as most economists and most of the media.</div>

But gasoline is less than $2 today, so there can't really be a problem, can there? Can there?</div>

The world's energy industry, including renewables and those wonderful, enormous oil sand reserves that are always cited, is seeing a lack of investment because oil is currently cheaper. The economic recovery, if there is one, will hit a wall of high energy prices and energy scarcity, especially of the cheap oil on which transport, agriculture and so much else depends. </div>

But no, Spigzone, Cenk, it appears, will not address the warnings of the International Energy Agency, or the experts both in and outside the oil industry pointing to the hard data on depletion. Will Cenk wait until the issue can no longer be ignored? It looks that way.

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Spigzone, Cenk won't talk about oil depletion | 16 comments (16 topical, 0 hidden)
Cenk knows... (none / 1)
Who pays his salary - He knows not to speak against the corporate world.
 
God forbid he speak the truth...

:)

by bobo1 on 02/10/2009 04:49:06 PM EST

Yes... (none / 0)

Only one man in the media speaks the truth, and that man is...?  Lou Dobbs, of course.

I'm so sick of TYT with all of their dirty oil money.  Always giving us their corporate talking points.  Elitist snobs...

Click here to donate!

by Spencer on 02/10/2009 05:02:14 PM EST

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I was referring to... (none / 0)
The potential MSNBC slot and George Soros, who obviously lavishly funds this show through secret "donors" like you and Ken.

It must be one of those Jew Media conspiracies!

;)

by bobo1 on 02/10/2009 05:20:12 PM EST

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Hahah (none / 0)
For some reason I cracked up when you said Lou Dobbs. Lol.

by LadyFriend on 02/10/2009 09:31:46 PM EST

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One man speaks the truth: Alex Jones. (none / 0)
Alex Jones tells it like it is and you really should listen to him but I fear it may be too late...

by dan pearce on 02/11/2009 06:25:44 AM EST

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and in addition... (none / 0)
Cenk would much rather talk about celebrity trivia than anything important. I think he's lost the plot since his beloved Obama gained power. And he calls himself a rebel- HA!

by dan pearce on 02/11/2009 06:28:45 AM EST

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Which is worse (none / 0)
Someone who'd rather talk about celebrity trivia than anything important

or 

a clown who supposedly hates the show yet signs up for an account at the website to discuss it?

by Tom Hanc on 02/12/2009 01:57:02 AM EST

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Curious that this comment (none / 0)

stemmed from what I said.  I'm not really seeing the connection.

I (and others) actually like the show how it is, celeb news and all (GASP!), and that's why I hang out on the site.  Kind of makes me wonder why you're here though.  If this Alex Jones guy is so great, I'm sure he'd love your support on his site.

by Spencer on 02/12/2009 02:13:34 AM EST

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PEAK OIL (none / 0)

I agree Landbeyond.

The following  site provides great insight into the horrors that the energy crisis poses for our future.

A must read for all that are concerned and those that are unaware. 

http://peakoil.com/gate.htm l?name=peakintro

by Orbital73 on 02/10/2009 05:31:07 PM EST

So what is the plan? (none / 0)
How do we solve our energy problems? This stimulus package is the perfect time to invest 100% of the 800+ billion into new energy sources, conservation programs, green infrastructure, and future technology research.

I think if France can generate ~75% of it's power from nuclear sources then so should we. We can get the rest from solar, geothermal, and wind power. In order for this to work we need a national power grid. High speed rail and more local rail lines will help us use less oil. We can turn most- maybe even all, I'm not quite sure-garbage dumps into power plants by burning off the natural gas that they let escape into the atmosphere.

Give tax cuts to people and businesses who generate a certain amount of power for themselves to offset the cost of rigging their house or office building to work off the grid. Give even more tax cuts for people who build their homes according to the Energy Star standards as well as businesses.

Invest heavily in electric car technology. Down the road we EVs have longer ranges, give tax cuts to people who buy them. In the mean time we can give tax cuts to people driving 35mpg cars or better.

Republicans want tax cuts so we give them tax cuts, but we give the tax cuts to the people who are willing to be part of the solution to our energy problem. President Obama has said he wants to mobilize Americans. I think this is how we do it. I think this is how FDR would have attacked this problem.

What does everybody else think?

by gotchange on 02/10/2009 08:24:45 PM EST

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the classics (none / 0)
Peak oil

Net Exports

Energy Plan

by alphasigmookie on 02/11/2009 01:36:11 AM EST

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going nuclear (none / 0)
gotchange

Nuclear energy is the wrong way to go. Uranium faces the same problem oil does, all minerals and fossil fuels do, all the easily accessable high quality stuff is long gone with the remainder of ever lower quality and harder to extract PLUS as oil runs out, followed shortly by natural gas, the rest of the world *cough france cough* will be willing to go to the mattresses for their share of what's left. There is only ONE sane way to go. Clean, limitless renewable energy supplies. Solar, wind, gravity and geothermal. Gravity covers hydro-electric and tidal, wind covers wind turbine and wave energy extraction technologie s. Then there is that problem with storing nuclear wastes. Shutting down the funding for yucca mountain i do not understand. The nuclear waste is far far bettr off there than scattered around the country near major metropolitan areas and susceptable to a variety of natural disasters. I don't know what the hell Obama is smoking on tht one. Adding more nuclear plants would just add to that already critical and potentially catastrophic problem.

Those must become our PRIMARY energy sources ASAP. Energy storage technologies SHOULD have a hundred billion all to itself, as that is the KEY technology which can leverage the renewables to cover all needs now met by gasoline and diesel engines.



   

by spigzone on 02/28/2009 09:45:40 PM EST

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the oil drum is better (none / 0)
www.theoildrum.com

by alphasigmookie on 02/11/2009 01:29:56 AM EST

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It was in Obama's Inaugural (none / 0)
Obama said in his inaugural that he wants to stop buying energy that "hurts the planet and helps our enemies". It's clearly a priority for him but it's the kind of thing that takes a while to come up with a plan that has all the details in place. Give him some time to do that. One of his few pieces of luck is that oil got a bit cheaper just before he came into power, so give him a few months to fix the economy and set a date to get out of Iraq, then see what he says about lowering oil use. He has appointed people who understand science, so that's a good sign for this.

by moribund on 02/10/2009 10:44:14 PM EST

Time is one thing he ain't got. (none / 0)
That's kinda the problem, Obama doesn't HAVE that time. If he DID, what he is presently doing would be workable.

The stimulus bill was a waste of precious and unrepeatable resources. The inaugural address should have laid out the core situation to the american people with a basic framework of what needs to occur to meet the challenge with the absolute basics that will be needed in an initial 400 billion 'Saving America's Future'. Or some such. the 'SAFe' bill. The contents simple, contructing a safety net FLOOR so every citizen can be assured that no moatter how much they lose and how bad their situation gets, they can be assured of food, shelter from the elements and baisc medical care. With THAT floor in place, people can RELAX a bit. The rest of the bill devoted to energy storage technologies, renewable energy projects, mass transit and converting to plug-in hybrids and electric vehicles.

I think the american people were READY for that message and would have solidified behind it. They ARE ready to work and sacrifice IF they know it will bring a clean safe secure future with a reasonable quality of life.

That was totally doable.

The point is Obama needed to start the people of this country down the correct reality path at the start, not the path of cheerleading the country to look forward to a return to past glory. That's idiotically short sighted and the path of the politically cowardly. The people of this country needed a glass of ice water in the face and be told 'here is the real situation and this is what we can do to meet it'.

by spigzone on 02/28/2009 10:16:02 PM EST

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Totally missed this. (none / 0)
Picked it up on a google.

Thanks Landbeyond, nice to know someone out there seems to be on my wavelength.

I'm not sure just what Obama knows and understands on the severity and timing on what are now ever more rapidly diminishing oil supplies. I was very disappointed that the american people weren't given a heads up in the 'address to congress' speech. It was the perfect time to at least get the reality ball rolling. With the direction he's taken on handling the financial sector and his failure to give the american people some starting dose of the true scope of what is coming, the window of opportunity for Obama to keep this country from breaking down into uncertainty driven chaos seems nearly closed.

People just can't seem to PROCESS a reality such as the world's GDP declining 50% or more within the coming decade and WHAT THAT MEANS. They are in flat out denial. Jush cannot and will not face or even admit the possibility of that reality.

Only Obama has the megaphone and gravity to break though and start the conversation in earnest.
 
I gave a heads up on this to my friends and relatives, which satisfied my core sense of duty. So the rest of this is just messing around I guess. 

Soon enough the rubes will find out the real reason why this 'recession' is happening so much faster, is so much deeper and might last so much longer then the talking head 'experts', currently mystified, seem able to account for.

But the players already know. That IEA report was the wake-up bell for any that were still on the fence. That the core of that report, the 800 largest oil fields currently declining by 6% annually, didn't dominate the news cycle for at least a week says loudly and clearly the rubes are going to eat shit like never before.

by spigzone on 02/28/2009 09:17:03 PM EST

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