03/09/2009 02:54:14 PM EST

this sure is one doozy of a MENTAL RECESSION

posted by MetalFalsetto

 

 

Americans are so whiny. Don't they realize that this is all just in their heads?

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Someone should really ask Phil Graham how much longer this recession will last. I know its not really happening, but if it was; things would sure be looking grim right about now. Thanks be to Odin that its all just imaginary. It may seem real to those of you who have lost their jobs or homes because of it, but have no fear. The truth will be revealed to you, just as soon as you take this blue pill in my hand.
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this sure is one doozy of a MENTAL RECESSION | 36 comments (36 topical, 0 hidden)
MIA (none / 0)
along with the rest of the reality deniers

by sisco66 on 03/09/2009 05:45:57 PM EST

it _is_ in your heads, you whiny bitches (none / 0)

all the people i know who saved a significant fraction of their incomes, who did not spend frivolously, who took good care of their health with diet and exercise and lifestyle choices, who did not buy homes they could not afford with mortgages they could not understand, who did not rack up credit card debt just because it was convenient,

all of these people are doing just fine, and as long as borat does not confiscate their savings via redistributive taxes, are going to keep doing fine for quite some time.

so it must be all in the minds of the whiny bitch americans who traded profligacy for prudence. these whiny bitches need to suffer.

dumping on phil gramm (note the spelling), despicable human being that he is, does not change the fact that americans who supposedly suffer during recessions in the late 20th and early 21st century have no one to blame but themselves.

you fatty fucks are wasting more food, resources, and money each day than most humans on the planet have to spend in an entire year. and you still think you are owed something by the universe.

by neo on 03/09/2009 10:16:23 PM EST

1/10 (none / 1)
Needs more blaming religion for everything.

by jarett on 03/10/2009 09:32:52 AM EST

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A question (none / 0)

"all the people i know who saved a significant fraction of their incomes, who did not spend frivolously, who took good care of their health with diet and exercise and lifestyle choices, who did not buy homes they could not afford with mortgages they could not understand, who did not rack up credit card debt just because it was convenient,"

Failing to do which of these things causes you to lose your job like millions of Americans have?

by richardshort2001 on 03/10/2009 04:47:14 PM EST

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it is the personal safety net (none / 0)

["you" below is a collective "you"]

doing the things i mentioned does not prevent you from losing your job---not having job security is the price you have chosen to pay for living in a "capitalistic", "market-based" economy.

doing the things i mentioned does allow you to not have to panic or worry when you do lose your job---you have already built a financial cushion and a frugal lifestyle that allows you to weather any economic downturn. during that time, you can learn new skills (public libraries are still free and well-stocked in most blue states in the u.s.) and cultivate your mind and body, (re)build the relationships in your life that are important, care for your family, etc. etc. etc.

not doing the things i mentioned (and living paycheck-to-paycheck) means that after you lose your job, you will be in a constant state of panic and worry because you have nothing to fall back on. you deserve that state of panic because it was possible to have avoided that problem in the first place, but you chose not to.

by neo on 03/10/2009 05:50:21 PM EST

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because clearly (none / 0)
everyone with a job in America has money to save.

by richardshort2001 on 03/11/2009 04:47:54 PM EST

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because clearly (none / 0)
if you have a job that does not allow you to save any money, you either get a better job or else fuck off and die, bitches.

by neo on 03/12/2009 02:01:46 PM EST

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You know what (none / 0)

I will just let your comment speak for itself.

 It illustrates how completely out of touch with the rest of planet Earth you are than I ever could.

by richardshort2001 on 03/12/2009 11:20:53 PM EST

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You should explain that to KenTX (none / 0)
He's always going on about how he doesn't have enough money.

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 03/13/2009 12:28:08 AM EST

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Patience (none / 0)
How many people in TYT forum are complaining about Obama's targeted tax increases on "the rich"?

Soon enough, the definition of rich will expand to include the entire middle class. That's when the fun begins.

by Twba on 03/14/2009 02:44:29 PM EST

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OK (none / 0)
"Why do you think that a single person in this forum is obsessed with the subject of targeted tax increases on "the rich"?"

Because you work for your dad and don't think you make enough money?

Maybe you should learn to live by your own advice?

"If you’re not satisfied with your level of wealth, you need to work harder."

by KenTX on 03/10/2009 08:21:30 AM EST

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 03/14/2009 04:35:39 PM EST

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why I am obsessed with tax increases (none / 0)
Because you are one of the 20% of the population who imagine one day they will be in the top 1%?

How socially retarded do you have to be to try and use your own obsessive internet blog posts as "evidence" of anything other than your own desperate need for attention?

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 03/15/2009 05:30:27 PM EST

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plus you are ignoring the point. (none / 0)
You are saying "it is in your heads" while unemployment is worse than it has been since 82.

by richardshort2001 on 03/11/2009 04:49:42 PM EST

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Oh wise one (none / 0)
Who could have imagined that watching "The Matrix" 150 times could impart such wisdom to an individual?  

by bfaul on 03/13/2009 11:39:43 AM EST

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neo took the red pill (none / 0)
yea all of those people that you think did all the right things where just fine until they lost their jobs due to factors out of their control. Then things become decidedly less fine.

Bills crop up.. credit card debt goes unpaid..homes are lost. Health deteriorates because of stress.

If you arent happy America enjoys a high standard of living move your ass to Zimbabwe .


by Chinese Democracy on 03/13/2009 11:59:11 AM EST

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recession (none / 0)
Is that what you call this crap state we are in, That just means you get paid to dam much $ for what you do. For the rest of us , Its called a depression,  our wages don't go up not even 1/2 of the cost of living. The cost of food , And everything else go's up and we can't keep up . Oh thats right thats our fault forgot.
So you are saying a guy like me who was able to buy a house 10 yrs ago , but then my wife got sick and can no longer work I am winning. So now that my income is now 35% less should not have got the house in the 1st place.

Sounds like you are from the higher crust and don't need to get any raises to help you get by, Thats good you made it Iam happy for you.
But don't call everyone a whinner that are not making it , Not all of us just went out and spent to much on a house we can not afford. some where doing just fine untill somthing bad happened, And when our savings ran out ,We are fucked now because of this DEPRESSION THAT WE ARE IN BECAUSE OF ALL THE CROOKS THAT RUN THINGS . They take and take more and then they go to the goverment and say bail me out , I can't get my big bonus this yr if you don't. 

This is mostly the fault of the rich not the poor, So quit whinning yourself

by tuna on 03/10/2009 07:54:25 AM EST

To inject some reality into the tax debate as well (none / 0)
The overall tax increase paid by a person making $300k in taxable income is .76% ($2,300).

Terrifying, isn't it?

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 03/14/2009 04:57:45 PM EST

Classic Ken (none / 0)
You condemn Obama for something you THINK he might do in the FUTURE and you call an accurate graph of US tax rates a "bogus source" purely because it disproves your POV.

Try and keep up.

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 03/15/2009 12:54:28 AM EST

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Ken = inept or incompetent? (none / 0)
"The last date on your graph is 2008. Obama became president in 2009."

Did you not notice the uptick in the graph following 2008, returning income taxes to the pre-Bush level?

Once again you have paraded your lack of comprehension for everyone to see.

"Obama has been in office less than 60 days. He hasn't had time to implement large, sweeping tax increases on the "rich". Therefore, Robrob and his bogus sources are once again relegated to liar status."

"Since Obama has been president for roughly 50 days, we don't yet know the full magnitude of the tax increases he will be able to implement during his first year in office. Therefore, you and your source are liars."

You continue to blame Obama today for things you imagine he might do in the future.

"The last date on your graph is 2008. Obama became president in 2009."

One might have assumed someone as financially savvy as you claim to be would know CY 2008 federal income taxes are not due until April 15, 2009.

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 03/15/2009 05:24:45 PM EST

Notice how long it takes me to respond (none / 0)
Because you're obsessed with me?

"Obama has announced that he will allow the Bush tax cuts to expire."

Wow, devastating comeback. That would of course be the reason for the future "uptick".

Feel free to explain what factual errors you found in the graph? You complain it ends at 2008 yet the "uptick" clearly extends beyond that date. Regardless, at that time the levels of taxation will still be well below the rates under Reagan or Nixon.

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 03/15/2009 06:00:05 PM EST

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Are you intentionally this dense? (none / 0)
The graph shows a projected return to pre-Bush tax levels following the expiration of the tax cuts in 2010.

Still much lower than under Reagan or Nixon.

Strange you don't address that.

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 03/15/2009 06:31:47 PM EST

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No (none / 0)

he is not being intentional.

You asked a lot from Kenny and he don't read so good.

If you look closely at that graph the X axis is done in 4 year intervals. Why they didn't bring it up to 2012 I have no idea but if you look closely the up tick doesn't happen until slightly after 2008.

The thing that should have tipped Kenny off is the giant blue box that says "OBAMA  PROPOSES ROLLING BACK BUSH TAX CUTS IN 2011".

However, that would reqire Kenny to read someting and well you know the rest.

by z1p101 on 03/15/2009 07:02:40 PM EST

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Kenny (none / 0)

Grow up and stop acting like a jackass.

Once again, I feel embarrassed for you.

by z1p101 on 03/15/2009 08:50:27 PM EST

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How deep do you want to dig this hole? (none / 0)
You are flailing around so much it's becoming hard to follow you. For the record, please state what it is exactly you are trying to say about the chart?

Then feel free to explain how anything you said contradicts the fact when Obama lets Bush's temporary tax cuts expire the top tax rate will rise to 39.6% which is well below the 50% suffered under Reagan and the 70% under Nixon.

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 03/15/2009 09:01:24 PM EST

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Does Texas not have a math requirement? (none / 0)
Sorry you have such trouble understanding graphs. Where I come from they usually cover this sort of thing in grade school.

The X axis is measured in increments of 4. The last multiple of 4 was 2008. The next multiple of 4 will be 2012. The uptick takes place somewhere between 2010 and 2011. That would be BEFORE 2012, right?

Of course none of this has to do with the fact that at 39.6%, the new rate will still be much lower than under Reagan (50%) or Nixon (70%).

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 03/15/2009 09:27:17 PM EST

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That's great to (none / 0)

Kenny, but the problem continues to be that giant blue box with the arrow clearly marking that specific point on the line.

You know, the one that says "OBAMA  PROPOSES ROLLING BACK BUSH TAX CUTS IN 2011".

God you look like such a fool right now and I feel so bad for you.

by z1p101 on 03/15/2009 10:15:40 PM EST

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Wow (none / 0)

It does?

With the resolution setting on my screen, every 4 year increment is about .25 inches away from one another. The last uptick on my screen starts about .125 inches away from the 2008 mark, give or take a .0625. That is why they put the blue box with the fancy words and the arrow there to mark the point.

Are you going to continue to let us goof on you like this?

by z1p101 on 03/15/2009 11:13:21 PM EST

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You're a glutton for attention, negative or not (none / 0)
"OBAMA  PROPOSES ROLLING BACK BUSH TAX CUTS IN 2011".

What part of that confuses you?

Is there a 2010 or 2011 on the graph?

Most people who have actually graduated from High School, much less college, know sequential points on a graph are linked by a direct line. Please tell me you already knew that?

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 03/15/2009 10:26:53 PM EST

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Umm (none / 0)

Kenny

Don't need one. The X axis is clearly marked in 4 year increments starting at 1920.

"Is there a 2010 or 2011 on the graph?"

If you graduated high school, you would know that 10 and 11 are not evenly divisible by 4. That is why you will never see them on said graph.

However, all relevant points on the graph are clearly marked and any accountant, CEO, politician or high school grad can figure out what it means. The only one having trouble here is you. Bobo and TWBA will not even touch this one with a 10' pole.

Kenny, you have 3 choices.

  1.  Walk away from this one like you always do.
  2. Actually be a man and admit that you are wrong.
  3. Continue to be the TYT forum's comedy relief.

 Which one is it going to be buddy?

by z1p101 on 03/15/2009 11:03:47 PM EST

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It's marked (none / 0)

right there Ken with a big blue box.

Please, please, please Kenny, don't walk away. This is going to be the  new official Ken is a moron bookmark.

by z1p101 on 03/15/2009 11:17:06 PM EST

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OMG Ken's right (none / 0)

I just realized it.  There is no 2001, 2002, or 2003 on the chart either!!!!!!!11!

That means we don't know when the alleged "Bush" tax cuts actually occurred I suggest they actually happend and 99 and Clinton did them, since the chart doesnt have them directly above a year marker that was during the Bush term.

by richardshort2001 on 03/15/2009 11:41:22 PM EST

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Well (none / 0)

I guess that proves it.

Kenny decided to be the comedy relief once again.

This one is a classic.

by z1p101 on 03/16/2009 12:14:51 AM EST

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Umm (none / 0)

No I didn't. I'm waiting for your reply and a year and a half and one national election later, I'm still waiting for you to explain to me how the Dem's didn't make the right political play there.

I told you Kenny 

by z1p101 on 03/15/2009 06:00:23 PM EST

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Oops! (none / 0)
"Americans who identify themselves as Democrats are mostly responsible for the improved ratings of Congress measured in the March 5-8 Gallup Poll. After showing a 25-point increase in their approval of Congress from January to February and a further 14-point increase in March, a majority of Democrats (57%) now approve of the job the Democratically-controlled Congress is doing. Independents also show improved ratings of Congress, but not nearly to the extent that Democrats do. Republicans' evaluations of Congress have changed very little this year."

Thanks for the link. You are always your own worst enemy.

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 03/15/2009 06:35:16 PM EST

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Ahh Kenny (none / 0)

I was hoping you would be dumb enough to say something like that so let's look at the other graphs.

 Here is overall.

 

 Here is what those all important Independents think.

 

 Independent approval has doubled in 3 short months.

Thank's for the bitch slapping Kenny but America despises Republicans now. Just like I told you would happen.

I got me a big one 

by z1p101 on 03/15/2009 06:46:51 PM EST

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