04/14/2009 02:29:25 AM EST

Is the FOX NEWS bias going too far?

posted by Erauprcwa

Is Fox "conservative" News going too far with its distortion of facts?

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Well all those who are reading this are obviously persons who lean to the left, so I don't really have to worry about opposition comments on this but I have to ask the question. Has Fox gone too far in its attempts to disprove Obama and ruin his Presidency?

Rachel Maddow said this several months ago shortly after the Sarah Palin and John McCain fiasco in which someone screamed out "kill him" during a rally and both candidates didn't address the issue. Rachel Maddow said "do they realize that this country has a history of assassinations...?" and that's a good question I would love to ask Fox News.  The amount of violence they promote from their clear bias opinions and imagery promotes fear in the hearts of worried Americans who possibly have lost everything due to the wrong doings of top management in our government and big businesses.

Sadly enough the average Fox News viewer (and I don't have facts to back this up but...) probably has never read a single transcript or actually listened to Obama give speeches or even attempts to learn any political information to decifer what's fact and what's distorted information that we tend to get form Main Stream "Liberal" Media as some would call it.  

Watching shows like Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reily to which he claims to be an independent???? (do you believe that?  but watching those shows at the beginning were entertaining but after listening to that guy who talked about "brainwashing" and how Fox News is the only truth in the media just scares me in that Fox still has an influence on people and all you need is on jackass with a gun to cause chaos in this country.  G. Gordon Liddy was wrong in telling people to NOT register their fire arms, Michelle Bachman is wrong in telling people about "education camps", Limbaugh is just wrong PERIOD, and you know all the rest...

I'm not sure if these videos are embedded but check them out and you tell me if this is something on should be worried about because honestly and not to sound like Glenn Beck or any other Republican talking head but we as Americans need to stand up and take Fox down if they're going to be doing this...

FOX NEWS "FAIR AND BALANCED"

Okay I tried to embed the vids but I still have to figure out how to do it... so I will type the name of the vids and you can check them out if you want...

ALL VIDEOS CAN BE FOUND ON YOUTUBE.COM

-Murdoch of Fox News Admits Manipulating the News for Agenda

-When it comes to Obama, FOX IS WRONG

-Fox News: Weatherman Bill Ayers Was Obama's "Mentor"

check them out... especially the vid with Rupert Murdoch

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who is the worst Fox anchor/contributer
Sean Hannity 46%
Glenn Beck 23%
Bill O'Reily 3%
Michelle Malkin 13%
E.D. Hill 0%
Alan Combs (formally) 3%
Neil Cavuto 3%
FOX AND FRIENDS anchors 3%
Megan Kelley 3%
Juan Williams 0%

Votes: 30
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Is the FOX NEWS bias going too far? | 20 comments (20 topical, 0 hidden)
They all look so good (4.50 / 2)
It's tempting to pick Beck for Worst Fox Anchor, considering the disproportionate amount of exposure he's suddenly started getting, but in the end I had to let Beck be saved by his obvious mental illness and go with Hannity. Here's a guy who is so busy lying, he can't even find the time to make himself likable. Plus, I mean, LOOK AT HIM.


"Darp, darp, darp, duuuh...I'm Hannity."

by OneHitKill on 04/14/2009 09:20:24 AM EST

Exactly (none / 0)

My heart said Beck but my head knew Hannity was the right choice. Like Cenk said, at least Beck is entertaining.

Hannity sucks all logic, facts and entertainment out of the room, like a right wing black hole.

by Tom Hanc on 04/14/2009 02:03:56 PM EST

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OneHitKill good choice (none / 0)

When I first heard Fox News, I thought of Rush Limbaugh right away.  There was no time lapse for self-debate.  I think they know how much damage they are doing to the country, as long as they believe they will end up with the "Truly wealthy." when America is finally in ruin.

Hannity, my pick by far.  He is so disgusting he fits into any pig sty.

by Lennilenape on 04/14/2009 05:53:42 PM EST

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I agree (none / 0)
But in the back of my head im thinking Colmes, cause, these are fox news pundits, they can't be changed, but Colmes he just took all the crap from them for so long, and did nothing to stop it.

He's like the kid who gets bullied than shoots up the school.

by nmaks on 04/14/2009 09:54:54 PM EST

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FOX news is pathetic(and I don't lean to the left) (none / 1)
I don't lean to the left, I lean to the middle when I don't know about the issues (I figure if I don't know, than both sides must be partly right, and compromise is generally desirable).
When I do know about the issues, I lean towards the pragmatic.  I like this site because I think that's what Cenk does too.  Also I like being able to watch TV online.
As a middle leaning person I would like to defend FOX news, but I can't.  Their coverage simply strays more and more to the unthinking right every day.
"terrorist fist bump" says it all.

However, and this is an ENORMOUS however.  This will not last very long.  Rupert Murdoch is not an evil right wing propogandist.  He is an exceptionally talented businessman who came to the conclusion that the right in our country (remember Murdoch is not American) was missing a "main stream media," and that a media outlet that provided what is missing, just like any other business that can provide what is missing, would make a shit load of money.  And Murdoch was right.  And he made shitloads of money.
  The people who watch FOX news are not all stupid.  They watch it for many reasons, faster paced editorial style is a big one.  Another is general disgust, not at the opinions or beliefs of "progressives", but at the ATTITUDE of many people who consider themselves "progressive."&nb sp; I too am disgusted by that attitude (hard to put a finger on but I know it when I see/hear it).

  Just as "the right," and more specifically/importantly the Republican party will soon experience a significant organizational and philisophical change that makes them more relevent (all political parties naturally evolve towards relevance or dissappear, and the Republicans aren't going anywhere), so will FOX news.  The American people are simply not stupid enough to buy the extreme side of what they're are selling on that channel, and when his market share goes down Murdoch will figure out why, and hopefully direct the channel to evolve in a direction that is, too put it simply, less stupid and more conservative.
Until then FOX is a joke, but it won't last.

by gregoryknelson on 04/14/2009 03:17:31 AM EST

I think you got some things right. (none / 1)

 

but...

If you watch Fox News and believe the crazies you are old, stupid or ignorant. There is no smart people watching that channel period.

 They target stupid people and stir them up to get them to watch more. Although I am fine with people selling whatever other people will buy, I am not ok with selling anything that could cost the buyer or others harm. The trash that FoX news is selling is putting us all at risk. They are stirring up a hornet nest, one full of stupid people with guns.

 

by mattish on 04/14/2009 04:13:02 AM EST

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need to clear this up (none / 1)

"I am not ok with selling anything that could cost the buyer or others harm"

  I am ok with selling products that causes harm to the buyer and no others as long as the buyer is fully aware of the risk.

by mattish on 04/14/2009 04:15:26 AM EST

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Intelligent people watch FOX News, Stupid. (none / 0)
  I just spent the evening with one of the smartest, and most thoughtful, men I have ever had the privelege of knowing.  He has several PhDs from places like Columbia (I know for sure) and the other one is from either Harvard or Yale.  He helped develop some of todays cutting edge medical technology …. In his spare time (did you know diabetics will soon be able to inhale insulin … cool, right).  He works primarly as a psychiatrist (his name is “Rock,” and anyone in the upper echelons of the NYC/CT medical establishment will know who I’m referring to). 

  Basically this guy is a fucking legend (he once quoted me several paragraphs of the constitution to make some other point … I can’t remember what his point was because I was so impressed that he could quote the fucking constitution) and I know for a fact that he watches FOX News. 
  Granted, he told me he likes Britt Hume, and I doubt he watches Glenn Beck, but I have a feeling that occasionally he watches Sean Hannitty, with a little smirk on his face, just as I watch Keith Olbermann with a smirk on my face.  Actually, I watch both Keith and Sean when I get the chance, and I smirk the whole time … but never smile …  because both of them are guilty of about the same amount of general bias, and fact manipulation.  I watch them because they entertain me.  They both have personas I find somewhat likable, in about the same way you might find a 13 year bully somewhat likable for a few minutes before he becomes irritating.
  The comment “If you watch Fox News and believe the crazies you are old, stupid or ignorant. There is no smart people watching that channel period.”  Is itself, a profoundly stupid comment for three reasons:
1)    & nbsp; If you watch anyone on television and “believe” what they say you are pretty fucking stupid.  In a thoughtful mind, everything is taken for what it is and processed for what it is before the thoughtful mind moves on to the next opinion or piece of information.  There has never been an objective source or news or even fact in the history of mankind, and unless God comes down to earth, reveals his divinity, and starts telling us how it really is, there never will be.
2)    & nbsp; I watch Fox News.  I also watch other news stations, but I think if you’ve bothered to read this far it should be obvious that I am neither ignorant or stupid.  I’m also not old.  I’m 29.  If you consider that old than go fuck yourself, you little child.
3)    & nbsp; The attitude, and basic ignorance you express with that point of view ….  Dear lord, I don’t have time to go into all of this ….  Maybe I’ll write another blog on this tomorrow.  I’ll just say this:  patriotism, if you live in the USA, is a virtue not a vice.  And most professors at most colleges, especially little liberal arts colleges that are really hard to get into (I went to Swarthmore, so I know of what I speak) truly are people that couldn’t make in the real world.  Their salaries are paid by the donations of people who go out in the big bad world and have real successes that bring them real money.  And they take this money and make careers fomenting exactly the attitude that is expressed in the idiotic sentiment I am spending my valuable time responding to, God knows why.  And many of the people who prefer FOX News, prefer precisely because they are so disgusted by that, reflexively liberal, “I know better because I took a class” attitude that is expressed here.
 

For bonus points, here is point 4 …
 4) “There is no smart people watching that channel period,” Is a grammatically incorrect sentence.   Which makes you look, well, really stupid.
 

by gregoryknelson on 04/15/2009 01:21:35 AM EST

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gregoryknelson (none / 0)
Hey:  "There are no smart people watching that channel, (comma, or long "dash) period."  I'm not stupid either and, I still finished reading your post.  I found, what you brought, interesting; with a profound of amount of 'I want, I will, I must,' have the last word.

But worse, the underpinnings of your rebuttle was so full of a firm bitterness.  As a result, it was hard to decipher your post any different than those who deliberately post with vile resentment - attitudes that chip away at deviding the country.

I served four years in the Marine Corps.  One thing that was stressed to us recruits by one drill instructor in particular, was the warning:  "America will never be defeated by another country, but it will be defeated by the inner rot."

Yet, before my very eyes I see the workings of the "inner rot;"  Day after day, post after post.   I wish you were/are as "smart" (intelligent?) as you present us with in your post.  

Those who post intelligent work, do so with common sense as their guide.

by Lennilenape on 04/15/2009 03:06:16 AM EST

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The Worst (none / 1)
Glenn Beck is probably the worst and most dangerous Fox News guy, but he's obviously mentally ill, so he's somewhat excused. I'll vote for Bill O'Reilly instead, who is, as GWB would say, a major league asshole, but he might be sane.

by OldGerman on 04/14/2009 09:50:53 AM EST

funny (none / 1)
it's funny, I made that list and I couldn't really think of who the worst was... I ended up choosing Glenn Beck but honestly Between Sean Hannity and Billo it was a hard choice, too much hypocrisy going around it's hard to choose the worst.

by Erauprcwa on 04/14/2009 02:49:23 PM EST

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what about the teaparties? (none / 1)
They are going to do an all day "Tax-Day Tea-Party" Extravaganza tomorrow! Can You imagine if MSNBC or CNN or HN had done the kind of thing that Fox are planning with anti Iraq War protests? They're going to have remotes at a bunch of locations and they are hyping it like it's grass-roots, but I live in Oregon, and I know grass, these "Tea-Parties" aren't grass-root, they're astro-turf.

We are a way for the cosmos to know itself.

by aidbo on 04/14/2009 02:00:37 PM EST

Cherchez la Femme! (none / 1)

I'd go with Michelle Malkin. Any being that is able to short-circuit higher brain functions by hijacking male horniness with right wing malignance is a danger to humanity.

Her hate is sooo cute though... :)

The same would apply to Ann Coulter, but of course only Orcs, Ghouls and some other critters are aroused by her.

by eborujion on 04/14/2009 06:37:10 PM EST

Michelle Malkin (none / 1)
Isn't she the "anchor baby" who rails against immigrants?

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 04/14/2009 09:50:32 PM EST

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Yes, (none / 1)
that second generation Philipino chick who is so full of hatred of immigrants and liberals.

by eborujion on 04/14/2009 10:45:25 PM EST

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I choose sean but (none / 1)

 I don't know who I think the worst is. I think Hannity is the only one that actually believes the crap that comes out of his mouth. Billo and Beck I think are just really good at putting on a show, they always just seem to good at what they are saying. Sort of like Ann Coulter.

  I think why I am torn on it is I find Billo and Beck types entertaining if not for the dumb stuff they could be causing. Hannity on the other hand makes me very mad every time he opens his mouth.

by mattish on 04/14/2009 09:50:39 PM EST

well... (none / 1)
I guess I agree with you though my choice was Beck.  Hannity, when he talks he makes it sound like he ACTUALLY believes the crap he's selling.  Maybe he does but when a distortion of facts and edited video surface and then he attacks based off of that, he must know what he's doing.

Beck and O'Reily well do their antics for entertainment but they do probably believe what they're talking about.

oh well, Fox News isn't fair and balanced.

by Erauprcwa on 04/14/2009 10:49:01 PM EST

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Gone but not forgotten (none / 0)
When he was there, my vote went to Brit Hume.  I despised that man.  When he was a panelist on the Sunday morning show he was the most vile man in America.

David

by yturks on 04/15/2009 01:19:13 AM EST

The thing that was so frustrating about him (none / 0)
was that he always tried to lay this sheen of moderate journalistic integrity over everything he was saying, even when the actual words were basically neocon raving insanity.  I knew so many people that would say things like "Oh I know Hannity and all of the opinion guys at Fox are pretty biased, but Wallace and Hume just tell it like it is".  The wolf in sheep's clothing is even more dangerous than a rabid pack of wolves, because at least you can see them coming.

by funkyspoon on 04/15/2009 01:56:58 AM EST

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oh yeah... (none / 0)
I forgot about Brit Hume... oh dang! Dave, I wanted to forget about him, he's horrible...

I mean some of the worst people on Fox are the ones who claim to be moderate/un biased but if you listen to their words closely they're in a sense brainwashing people in believing what they want because they play the moderate card when they're not. Brit Hume fits that category... At least with Billo and Glenn Beck we see and know what's coming.

by Erauprcwa on 04/15/2009 01:44:52 PM EST

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