04/17/2009 04:14:37 PM EST
"The Worst Generation" or "Torture, Not Just for Juntas Anymore"
posted by mauirising
Still...
Iraqi Freedom...
Cenk is soo wrong about this 'not holding the agents of torture responsible' business. Does he also believe that the nazi guards during WWII should not have paid a price?? "I was just following orders" seems to be good enough for our big guy. I really do not agree. Perhaps I am olde-fashioned but I really do believe that anyone who is serving our country should be aware of what defines War Crimes.
Coming from a long military tradition, I can tell you that Cenk is severely mis-representing the capabilities of our own people. They are quite able to distinguish what is just and moral from what is villainous. Those few that are willing to disregard their oath to uphold the Constitution and the Geneva Convention rulings are criminals. They would be criminals if they were civilians and being in the CIA or military does not mitigate their culpability one iota.
These agents and or soldiers are given the power over life and death so they must be held to a higher standard, not lower. I do not want automatons representing me or my country in these situations. I do want people who know right from wrong and will not participate in heinous criminal behaviour. Unlike Cenk, I do want them second-guessing criminal orders. In an ideal world they wouldn't have to. Sometimes things go awry in the world of politics and despots come to power. America should not lose its soul because of a hanful of sociopaths. If enough of these guys had questioned the torture they were being asked to commit we would not be in this situation right now.
Does it really take a legal eagle to know that putting a human being in a box with insects is wrong?? So, no-one but me has read George Orwell's "1984"?? Remember Room 101? Judge "Hang em' High" Bybee apparently read it. What Cenk said about not holding the people who actually committed these nefarious acts responsible smacks of "American Exceptionalism".
We go around the world preaching human rights to other countries but we will not even take our own medicine.
Perhaps Cheney and his ilk have won. They said in the beginning that we, as a country, were going to have to walk on the 'dark side', 'get our hands dirty'...'done' and 'done'. Some people seem okay with that, I am not. I keep remembering how at the end of WWII German soldiers continued fighting the Soviets so that they could surrender to the Americans. We are not that country anymore.