Yellowstone issues

Ok, ya'll seem pretty sure of yourselves about the firing of the people for peeing in the geyser so let me give you a little background.

This week last May my wife and I took our first vacation in Yellowstone. The park opens for the summer season on May 1stish and a number of the higher passes are still blocked with snow so not everything is accessible. However it is a great time to go (big FYI for anyone ever considering going to Yellowstone) because it has just opened and there are no crowds until after Memorial Day. We stayed at the Old Faithful Inn which is only 200 yards or so from the geyser.

Here's a photo of Old Faithful from wikipedia...

You will note that the area around the geyser mound is clear of everything, the walkways and viewing areas are about 50 yards away from the geyser itself. here is an area map...

There were Bison all over the place the entire time, to get anywhere you had to walk around them constantly. One big excitement was the Grizzly bear that was hanging around the Inn early on the second morning; a couple of students ran into it on the path and were quite surprised!

One part of employee orientation includes "encounters with wildlife" and it was this information that helped these kids avoid a messy problem with the bear. Another thing is geyser safety. Last year, 2 kids went off the path, trying to find a shortcut back to the employee housing, and broke through a crusted area falling into one of the geyser pools, they died from the heat in just a few minutes, one kid survived with 3rd degree burns over 95% of his body. So safety around geysers is of paramount importance. So look at the map and photo, the only way to pee into Old Faithful is to approach it past all of the security perimeters risking the fact that the ground could be weakened near the geyser and you could fall in and die. The area is also surrounded by tourist trails and buildings; you're not out in the middle of the woods here, so there are a lot of people around.

So yes, the company did the right thing firing these kids. The first day they were warned not to approach the geysers or they could die like the 2 last summer, if they violated this simple safety rule in the 2nd week of their employment they are too stupid to be trusted.

Ok, I'm GrandPa Rich here, but I don't think they had any choice. We did talk to 2 of the guys who had to pull the bodies out last year and it was not a pretty event.

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I think your grandpa POV is a good one. Another FYI, the cam that they were "caught" on was a web cam that points at the geyser 24/7. So its takes a special kind of dumbass to think noone is going to see you.

http://www.nps.gov/yell/pho tosmultimedia/ugb_geysers.h tm
http://www.nps.gov/PWR/cust omcf/apps/stream/stream.htm ?parkcode=yell

by Smokin on 05/16/2009 01:12:13 AM EST

I don't think those guys were fired for being environmentally unsound, as Cenk was thinking

 

Old Faithful is a national monument. I'm sure the same thing would've happened if employees at The Alamo peed on it...or employees at the Lincoln memorial peed on that.

by Perry on 05/16/2009 05:13:01 AM EST

This is the company that manages a number of the National Parks and has seasonal jobs in them.

http://www.xanterra.com/

After talking to a number of the workers at Yellowstone it might be something my wife and I will do some summer. Some stunningly hot young ladies at the Grand Tetons park btw. (No pun intended, but they did have Grand Tetons too!)

by CptRich on 05/16/2009 06:31:24 AM EST

"for being environmentally unsound"

Agreed. Sounds like the start of another urban myth. The two broke numerous safety rules that endangered their lives (as well as their potential rescuers'). They were obviously fired for their lack of judgment but I would bet over time that will be forgotten and the internet version will claim it was environmentalism (for or against), "Earth worship", or whatever pet peeve the poster wants to carp about.

E.G. "Woman gets millions for spilling hot coffee from McDonald's" and "Prisoner sues over chunky peanut butter."

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by Robrob on 05/16/2009 01:03:12 PM EST

Not to be cold or anything but, even today, natural selection continues.

 

by MRFred on 05/16/2009 10:10:17 PM EST

If the caldera erupts it will take about 80% of the perennial Red states with it...but hey...the wasteful stimulus package and its damn volcano monitoring. It will be Jindals fault.

by MRFred on 05/17/2009 10:19:59 AM EST

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This was a case of T.S.T.L. Too Stupid To Live.

by CptRich on 05/17/2009 08:38:19 AM EST

i think somebody stated above, that this is like pissing on any other national monument........its not the fact that its a safety or environmental issue, its the fact that two guys pissed on one of our national treasures......they could've pissed behind a tree or a bush or something, yet they risked being hurt to intentionally piss on something that millions of us love and is a symbol of our country.....to me its like pissing on the statue of liberty or something, grounds enough to fire them, in my opinion.

by Crow88 on 05/17/2009 11:14:28 AM EST

They got off easy! For pissing on a monument,for risking their lives by ignoring all the saftey rules to get to it, and for doing it infront of cameras that point at the monument at all times, the two guys got fired and one got "unsupervised probation" which means if he does something stupid again this will come back to haunt him. It was a total slap on the wrist and very fair IMHO.

by Smokin on 05/17/2009 01:29:11 PM EST

I don't quite understand it... How on Earth are they supposed to keep the stones yellow? Urinating seems to be the most obvious and the environmentally soundest means to achieve that!

scnr

by eborujion on 05/17/2009 04:14:35 PM EST

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