05/18/2009 11:20:10 PM EST

Jesus was a Liberal

posted by yturks

The Reverend Scotty McLennan talks about how the Right Wing improperly hijacked the teachings of Jesus.

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Jesus was a Liberal | 11 comments (11 topical, 0 hidden)
Just like Harry Potter was a liberal? (none / 0)
The writings about the storied Jesus (Harry) laid down in several books, would lead you to think he would be a liberal, if he had really existed. But since all evidence of Harry's (Jesus's) existence comes from those very same books with no other independent contemporary evidence, it would lead me to the alternate conclusion that maybe the author(s) of said books were really the liberals we speak of.

by rolodex on 05/18/2009 11:44:05 PM EST

You miss the point (none / 0)
Fine, you don't believe in Jesus or religion, we get it. But even if you believe or not, the philosophical discussion on what the bible "teaches" and how it conflicts with the majority of the republican party, is something that many can appreciate.

Now fYI ..... scholars, religious or not, believe Jesus did exist and is not a "fictitious character" like a Harry Potter. Obviously what was said of the man and the info on this man is debatable.

Besides, everyone knows Harry is a commie.

by Smokin on 05/19/2009 02:34:03 PM EST

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Also according to historians, there were as many (none / 0)

Jesuses

in

ancient palestinePalestine 2000 years ago as there are in East LA today.

by gatekeeper50 on 05/19/2009 03:16:32 PM EST

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This is true (none / 0)
But my point wasn't that there was "a Jesus", it was that the Jesus in the bible is of a person who did exist.

by Smokin on 05/19/2009 03:47:17 PM EST

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MY point was that the "Jesus" in the (none / 0)
bible was not one person, but many.

by gatekeeper50 on 05/19/2009 06:36:44 PM EST

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Historicity of Jesus (none / 0)
I have heard reputable scholars argue both sides of the issue. It is my understanding, that it is somewhat more accepted (academically) to claim that Jesus of Nazereth was a real historical person. This claim, however, is absolutely not claimed to be absolute. There are many credible arguments by academics and theologians on both sides of the issue. To me, it is irrelevant whether this particular Jesus existed. There is a Jesus portrayed in the bible and we should be able to move on from there.
On the other hand, the mythology surrounding the narrative of the life of Jesus of Nazareth is UNDENIABLY a compilation of earlier mythological messianic figures. I think both sides claim their historical position is much more strongly supported than it actually is. The truth is that no one knows for sure if he was one real person.
For great info about the historicity of Jesus google "The Jesus Project" and "The Jesus Seminar"

Anyway, I still think this point is largely irrelevant to the conversation at hand.

by LadyFriend on 05/20/2009 01:00:42 PM EST

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Historicity of Jesus (none / 0)
I have heard reputable scholars argue both sides of the issue. It is my understanding, that it is somewhat more accepted (academically) to claim that Jesus of Nazereth was a real historical person. This claim, however, is absolutely not claimed to be absolute. There are many credible arguments by academics and theologians on both sides of the issue. To me, it is irrelevant whether this particular Jesus existed. There is a Jesus portrayed in the bible and we should be able to move on from there.
On the other hand, the mythology surrounding the narrative of the life of Jesus of Nazareth is UNDENIABLY a compilation of earlier mythological messianic figures. I think both sides claim their historical position is much more strongly supported than it actually is. The truth is that no one knows for sure if he was one real person.
For great info about the historicity of Jesus google "The Jesus Project" and "The Jesus Seminar"
Anyway, I still think this point is largely irrelevant to the conversation at hand.

by LadyFriend on 05/20/2009 01:42:08 PM EST

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There certainly is a conflict with what the bible (none / 0)

says and with what republicans, and most conservative christians say, I appreciate that. The bible has many valuable stories and lessons, as do many philosophers that pre-date both the new and old testament, and many that have written since. And since there is no evidence that any of those were anything other than just humans writing about the human condition, none get any special credentials beyond the logic and reason expressed in their writings.

The tide is turning on that "scholars ... believe Jesus did exist", as it becomes less professionally damaging for them to come out and saywhat they really think.

As for what gatekeeper50 said, Jesus "was not one person, but many", I agree, he is a compendium of persons from that time, and many ancient characters from prior religions and myths. All this is fine for making some moral caricature, not unlike Santa Clause or Uncle Sam.

by rolodex on 05/20/2009 01:52:11 AM EST

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Who is Jesus? (none / 0)

Jesus lives in a trailer outside Area 51 with around 100 cats. He is overweight and wears a UFO Magazine ballcap and Hunter S Thompson sunglasses.

by designs on 05/19/2009 04:56:16 PM EST

Nooooo (none / 0)
Jesus directs TYT from the back. You just cant see him cause of Jayar's head, but have fiath, he is there!

by Smokin on 05/19/2009 05:03:43 PM EST

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As with other mythical hero figures (none / 1)
There probably was an actual "Jesus" who served as the kernel of truth/inspiration for the many stories eventually spun about his "adventures" over the millennium. E.G. Hercules or the city of Troy.

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by Robrob on 05/20/2009 02:00:56 AM EST

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