06/28/2009 05:46:47 AM EST

THANK YOU RONALD REAGAN... YOU FUCK UP!!!!

posted by Erauprcwa

And the Republicans idolize this son of a bitch?  seriously what was that line from the movie "AIRPLANE!"?

"I haven't felt this sick, sense we saw that Ronald Reagan film..."

OMFG, the man is a old crotchety bastard who was the starting point of everything bad today. too bad the fucker is dead.  I don't care if you think that was going to far, I sincerly dislike him and think he was the worst president EVER... GWB was better than him... at least we knew Bush was dumb, but this fucker acted smart.  People should've realized, he made shitty movies, he must be a shitty person.

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Worst Presidents Ever?
George H. W. Bush (I loves me some Barbara) 5%
Ronald Reagan (I'm a dumb SOB who fucked up the world) 14%
Bill Clinton (Monica suck it you whore) 0%
John F. Kennedy (Marilyn suck it you whore) 0%
Andrew Johnson (oh fuck! why do I have to be the first?) 0%
Barack HUSSEIN Obama (where's my teleprompter?) 2%
Lindon Johnson (Vietnam war, yeah let's implement the draft) 2%
George W. Bush (cow go moo! duck go woof woof) 73%
Grover Cleavland (can't believe I'm from Jersey, no wonder I smell like ass) 0%
Dwight Eisenhower (I'm a little BITCH) 0%

Votes: 34
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THANK YOU RONALD REAGAN... YOU FUCK UP!!!! | 51 comments (51 topical, 5 hidden)
Its telling that they picked him as their idol (none / 1)
They gave him that imperial funeral ,it was just a TAD over the top  unless you are a Roman emperor.

He created the mess we are in today  as you pointed out. He did not solve the Savings and Loan crisis obviously.

He was rabidly anti gay  withholding research money to help fight HIV/AIDS.

He crated the welfare mother riding around in a Cadillac myth. As well as validating the idea to conservatives that if you cant afford it then you dont deserve it  like health care .

on and on

At least he didnt puke on anyone.

Bush did that.

I think that was the most memorable thing he did during his presidency. Well besides invading Iraq, and putting ideas in his insane son's head.

A conservative believes nothing should be done for the first time

by C D on 06/28/2009 03:12:00 PM EST

Don't forget his crowning achievement (none / 1)
Iran-Contra

Illegally selling missiles to Iran and illegally giving the illegal money to the Contra terrorists (illegally).

Did I mention there was some illegality involved?

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 06/28/2009 04:37:41 PM EST

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Well (none / 1)

I think his *crowning* achievement was to lay the groundwork (through deregulation, massive tax cuts on the rich and corporations, killing good programs, union busting, telling people that government was the problem, etc.) for our failed economic system and the ever shrinking middle class.

But yes, the Iran stuff was also terrible.

by Tom Hanc on 06/28/2009 04:45:55 PM EST

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Yea that was one they can be proud of huh? (none / 0)
He said he didnt recall 245 times . Liar liar pants on fire.

And the main character Ollie damn the law Im a patriot  North is held in high esteem to this day.

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by C D on 06/29/2009 02:08:16 AM EST

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yeah (none / 0)
Reagan to me next to Bush, Nixon and Johnson was the worst President EVER.  Conservatives never talk about the things Reagan has faulted on and how much impact it's had on todays economy and society.  He started the welfare stigma.  

If I was a conservative I would disregard EVERY SINGLE one of those accusations... wait, conservatives do.  hmm...

by Erauprcwa on 06/30/2009 12:19:38 AM EST

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Ronald Reagan was just worst all around... (none / 0)
I mean, some conservatives have commented on my comments on youtube, and the thing that they ALL have said was...  "he was trying to fix the massive deficit that was left behind by the Carter administration" to which I respond by saying... "that's exactly what Barack Obama IS doing right now".  But most of them seem to disregard that claim and go on talking about socialism and government corruption and the government controlling the private sector to which violates a whole bunch of laws (which they made up out of their asses).

It's funny, they don't want to admit the mistakes that Reagan made and it's affects that it's had on the country today.  Throughout Reagan's entire funeral, I was so pissed.  The bastard should've been in the Hudson river as a funeral gesture.  Anyways, it seems conservatives who support Reagan are just unwilling to accept the facts and think more clearly.

I don't claim to be right all the time, but when I am wrong, I will admit it and try to come to a common consensus about a given topic.  I will not disregard my ideological values but, when you're wrong, you're wrong.

by Erauprcwa on 06/28/2009 07:01:31 PM EST

Facts don't lie (none / 1)
Unemployment numbers from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics

1980 = 7.1% (Carter's last full year in office)
1981 = 7.6% (Reagan's first year in office)
1982 = 9.7% (Reagan's first full year in office)
1983 = 9.6% (Regan's last full year in office 1st term)
1985 = 7.2% (Reagan's first full year in office 2nd term)
1988 = 5.5% (Reagan's last full year)
1992 = 7.5% (Bush41's last full year in ofice)
1993 = 6.9% (Clinton's first year in office)
1994 = 6.1% (Clinton's first full year in office)
2000 = 4.0% (Clinton's last full year in office)

Carter left Reagan a 7.1% unemployment rate. Reagan drove that rate up to 9.6% in his first term before bringing it down to 5.5% in time to hand off to Bush(41). Bush(41) ran it back up to 7.5% before handing it off to Clinton. Clinton brought it back down to 4.0% before handing it off to Bush(43) - who of course like any good Republican ran it right back up to where it is today.

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 06/28/2009 07:27:31 PM EST

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exactly... (none / 0)
lol... I used some of the statistics against him, the person on youtube... guess what he did, he blocked me:-) lol, that's happened a lot.

One time a guy was complaining about Obama's birth certificate, so I laid down some fact on him and next thing I know my comment was deleted and I was blocked from his channel.  Some people can't take facts.  Some people will call that ignorance, I call it stupidity.

by Erauprcwa on 06/28/2009 08:36:05 PM EST

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Obama's birth certificate (none / 0)
Of course the black helicopter fanatics won't listen to reason but the obvious answer to that question is; don't you think, if Obama really was foreign born, the RNC might have done something about it before the 2008 elections?

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 06/28/2009 08:52:12 PM EST

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or... (none / 0)
after 6 months of Obama being officially in office or even go back 8 months, when Obama was President-elect, that someone would've realized that Obama's birth certificate was a fake?  logic doesn't fit in those peoples minds.

by Erauprcwa on 06/28/2009 10:32:00 PM EST

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Security clearances (none / 0)
Etc...

Wingnuts and other conspiracy theorists just don't think things through.

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 06/29/2009 11:15:51 AM EST

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well... (none / 0)
you are better than KenTx, even though you two seem to quote each other... I swear one could think he's your alter ego, the stupid side.

by Erauprcwa on 06/29/2009 11:46:17 PM EST

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Get your tinfoil hats on (none / 0)
Robrob is just KenTX infiltrating TYT!

by birdboy1 on 06/29/2009 11:49:05 PM EST

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You could always post this pie chart to them (none / 0)
This is how Socialist the U.S is

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by C D on 06/29/2009 02:28:20 AM EST

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a few years back (none / 0)

in college I had a professor that had a PHD in economics. Economics was the major he had from undergrad to PHD. He was a banker and a very smart man.

 By the time I was done with his course I went from not caring about Regan(I was to young to remember him) to hating him.

  I don't think Bush Sr did a bad job but at least an ok job. He was at least smart enough  to stay out of Iraq.

Now Jr is a fuckup of an epic level. I don't think we could have done it without all the dumb shit the three before him started. His was a failed reign of stupidity 20 years in the making.

by mattish on 06/28/2009 10:29:18 PM EST

Bush sr. (none / 0)
I never had a problem with him.  I mean he made some bad decisions, what president hasn't.  But what really broke him was the "no new taxes" and then he raised taxes, which was FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE...

I find it funny, we as Americans want good healthcare, education, infrastructure, a competitive market place, basically we want a stable country with social programs that take care of the average Joe... But what people fail to realize is those things cost money and lowering taxes ALL THE TIME, doesn't necessarily help... ESPECIALLY in the middle of a recession.  It seems we want all those things, but we want someone else to pay for it. in the past 20-30 years, thus far... let's see how Obama does.  Clinton was the best President, who just happened to put a shit stain on his presidency with a blowjob with another woman, otherwise, I don't see too much of an issue.

by Erauprcwa on 06/28/2009 10:43:31 PM EST

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that is basically how I feel about Bush Sr. (none / 0)

 He was a forgettable president which is a good thing. If you can pull off 4-8 years of minimal reasons for someone to bring you up, you did a good job. That means that although you didn't do anything great you also didn't have any major screw ups.

My main issue with Clinton is the pro business stuff he did. I could care less about the blowjob.

by mattish on 06/28/2009 10:59:24 PM EST

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There's a difference... (none / 0)
...between being "pro-business", which can be a good thing if you support consumer protections, and being "pro-corporation", which is often not a good thing.  Corporations assign the privileges and rights of human beings to bottom-line focused organizations while relieving the people involved of responsibility for their actions.

Clinton was certainly pro-business, but he was also pro-corporation.

by EveningStarNM on 06/28/2009 11:08:37 PM EST

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Clinton was medicore *at best* (none / 0)

He wasn't moderate, he was a corporatist. His economic team was terrible, and their pro-deregulation insanity directly led to our current economic mess.

Also, he passed the Telecom Act of 1996 which is part of why our media is terrible, and the consequences of that are enormous.

Finally, he kicked "free trade" into high gear and helped to gut the economic base of our country so that it could become the "would you like to Super Size that sir?" service economy with qualitatively lower jobs. Not to mention the fact that he did nothing for our crumbling infrastructure/public transporation and nothing to restore some balance between workers and employers.

I know, I know, there was a hostile Congress, but that only goes so far.

by Tom Hanc on 06/28/2009 11:46:39 PM EST

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I recently read (none / 0)

that NAFTA was bad for Mexican, American and Canadian workers, as stupid as that sounds. From my understanding of it the businesses got all the benefits and the workers all took a screwing.

 I would call him a great president but I think the internet bubble was a major part of what helped the economy along so well for so long. So I don't think he played that much of a role in the economy and the deregulation that he helped along may make up for any good of the 90s.

by mattish on 06/28/2009 11:58:11 PM EST

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the 90s (none / 0)
was a great time for progression of the United States.  With the internet(s) (:-) cell phones, music, cars, etc... it really push our economy into overdrive and really promoted consumer spending and entrepreneurship in this country which lead to a lot of big new business... Starbucks, to name a few.  

I guess Clinton did ride a wave of new technology which the American people and the world just HAD to get their hands on.    

by Erauprcwa on 06/29/2009 12:35:51 AM EST

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Clinton's Rating (none / 0)
It depends on your point of view.  If you compare him to Bush -- or to any Republican, for that matter -- Clinton was a fucking economic genius.  But if you compare him to other presidents in general based on the effects of his policies and actions (and discounting the effects of the internet boom, which he failed to moderate), he was, as you say, mediocre at best.  But mediocre is not a bad thing to be if the alternative is the mess we have today.

by EveningStarNM on 06/29/2009 12:03:25 PM EST

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I see what you're saying (none / 0)

But ushering in of "free trade" has been disastrous overall (unless you're high up at some multinational corporation), and the deregulation wasn't genius, it was also disastrous.

Most of his rhetoric was better and he was much better on most social issues, I'll give him that.

by Tom Hanc on 06/29/2009 12:21:50 PM EST

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Clinton's mistakes (none / 0)
Deregulation was a boneheaded mistake.  He thought that Gore would be elected and that deregulation could be moderated or reversed.

And free trade was all the rage then, even though people did contrast it to fair trade.  But everyone thought, "Hurry up!  Globalization is coming!  We've got to drop our drawers immediately!"

And, as I mentioned, he failed to moderate the internet boom, and a bubble was created that burst.

He failed to moderate his policies.  He failed to moderate powerful directional trends in the economy, which always ends in disaster.

And he failed to get opposing points of view.

Wouldn't it be great to be a German -- or almost any European -- right now?  Seeing the United States on the wane while Europe makes tremendous investments in green technology industries while we sit on the sidelines, sending our money and our labor overseas...

It's got to be a dream come true for them.

by EveningStarNM on 06/29/2009 12:51:49 PM EST

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It's scary (none / 0)
I'm increasingly happy with my decision to never have kids. Not that I'm suggesting others shouldn't (people with kids get defensive when I say *I* won't want them, which is stupid).

by Tom Hanc on 06/29/2009 01:14:52 PM EST

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I agree (none / 0)
Im not that impressed with Clinton.

Hes great for comedians though

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by C D on 06/30/2009 04:57:40 AM EST

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good point (none / 1)
 And fits how I feel better really. I wish there was more pro-small business less pro-corporation.

by mattish on 06/28/2009 11:52:25 PM EST

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oh yeah:-) (none / 0)
I forgot about Nixon... poor bastard he deserves to be on the list.

by Erauprcwa on 06/29/2009 12:36:54 AM EST

"the list?" (none / 0)

Yes, he deserves to be on the list, even though I would never vote for him.  Dubya tops anyone you can throw at me.  Besides possibly sarah palin.  She might detonate the entire US nuclear arsenal as her inauguration fireworks

by birdboy1 on 06/29/2009 12:52:10 AM EST

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Buchanan (5.00 / 2)
He made a bad situation worse which resulted in a civil war in the United States.  He did nothing to try to stop it and, in fact, encouraged slavery.  The civil war that Bush caused wasn't in the U.S. but in Iraq, so I rate Buchanan as #1.  Also, Bush only tortured a few people.  He didn't try to enslave an entire race.

by EveningStarNM on 06/29/2009 07:19:31 AM EST

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you win this round... (none / 0)
But ILL BE BACH!
And you better be Haydn

by birdboy1 on 06/29/2009 12:34:56 PM EST

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S'Okay, birdboy1 (none / 0)
I'm in a forgiving mood today.  I've taken my Tagamet and I've got a bottle of Tums handy just in case.

And I love both Haydns, and Bach, too!  Well, Michael Haydn was okay, although I never learned much of his stuff other than his Cello Concerto and a couple of serenades.

Tongue Smiley

by EveningStarNM on 06/29/2009 01:11:16 PM EST

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What? (none / 0)
Youve never heard his trumpet concerto?

And of course everyone's heard Franz Joseph's 94'th symphony, mov. 2.  At 0:34 it's just a Blast

by birdboy1 on 06/29/2009 01:43:36 PM EST

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Trumpet??? (none / 0)
Who cares about trumpets?  I'm a cellist!

That symphony always makes me think of the costumes and group dances that those people did -- heavy dresses and high hair festooned with all kinds of crap, couples touching the tips of each others' fingers, lots of heavy makeup on both men and women, and the stink from their unwashed bodies heavy in the air, adding a bitter edge to their thick perfumes.

I am so glad that I live in the Age of Deodorant.

by EveningStarNM on 06/29/2009 06:32:41 PM EST

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who? (none / 0)
Who the hell is Perry?

by Erauprcwa on 06/29/2009 01:14:42 AM EST

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Hugh Everett is one of our right-wing visitors (none / 0)
Sometimes he plays fast and loose with the truth.  Perry is also a right-wing agitator, but he makes more incendiary comments than Hugh.  I really have no idea why Hugh is trying to equate you with Perry, but it's evident that Hugh is getting closer to losing his mind altogether.

by EveningStarNM on 06/29/2009 07:15:44 AM EST

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lol (none / 0)
okay, still getting to know some of the people on the blogs... the ones I know of mostly is KenTx...  

by Erauprcwa on 06/29/2009 02:13:23 PM EST

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Hugh Evert (none / 0)
Is an exact clone of KenTX

Right down to the mess of copied quotes and hotlinks

Its amazing

its kentx internet doppelganger

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by C D on 06/29/2009 03:45:24 PM EST

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the ones I know of mostly is KenTx... (none / 0)
Plural "ones" is appropriate in his case.

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 06/29/2009 05:11:07 PM EST

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I do have to say... (none / 0)
Robrob at first I thought you were KenTx, partially because you two would quote each other all the time, but now I realize you're the good one and he's the bad one...  

by Erauprcwa on 07/01/2009 12:50:29 AM EST

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