Openly gay military... who cares, if a person wants to serve, obviously they can serve.  I mean this don't ask don't tell thing is ridiculous because whether or not a person is gay in the military, they will still be gay even if they say they are or if they don't... I wonder how many gay soldiers there are right now, giving their hearts around the world now?

healthcare and violence, that to most Americans just don't make sense.  When you hear about healthcare, socialized healthcare... most RED BLOOD, Toby Keith singing "Proud to be an American" Americans will call that socialism  without doing the research for themselves while spouting, that's not the American way... not realizing that it's cheaper and provides a better healthcare system than that of the one we currently have also not realizing the wonders it's done for other countries...

I mean, what's stopping the progress in America usually comes down to religion and arrogant Americans (conservatives) to which by definition of Conservatism is a political and social term from the Latin verb conservare meaning to save or preserve. As the name suggests it usually indicates support for tradition and traditional values though the meaning has changed in different countries and time periods. to break that down, basically means people who don't want to change... and if you don't change, you can't progress, which will cause a down turn in life and society.

All of those evil, ignorant countries can't compare to America's greatness!  It's un-American to say that they do things better than we do!  Besides, they're evil socialists!

1. Only individual initiative has made this country great.

2. Everyone can pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

3. It is the unfettered, unregulated free market that is the great engine of our economy.

4. Government just gets in the way.  Government is the problem and it should be made very small and weak.  Government interferes with the moral people who are trying to pursue their self-interest to become prosperous. Because government interferes with them, it is un-American to promote government.

5. You know how to spend your money better than the government does.

NOTE: The author of this comment doesn't believe a single thing that he just wrote.  Arguments 1-5 are courtesy of George Lakoff.

...that you have some sort of nature vs. nurture argument to be able to justify your position, but could you substitute "black" or "Jew" for "gay" and be happy with your assessment?  "Our military is doing a good job, and they don't want any blacks tap dancing or Jews counting money in the foxholes next to them.  That would be an obvious negative effect on morale (to ignorant people like yourself.)  If blacks want to organize a 20-minute-late military gold tooth pageant or Jews want to organize a briscuit and gelfilte fish dinner, I'm sure they would do a marvelous job, cracker/mensch."

I know--the argument is that sexuality is interior (unlike race) and if no one mentions it, no one will know.  That doesn't cover you from the religious part of my example, but regardless, it is bullsh*t anyway.  I have many friends in the military.  It is largely a bunch of 20-year-old guys killing time for months on end in close quarters.  You don't think (hetero) sex is brought up and discussed 50 times a week?  You don't think the guys talk about female celebrities and girlfriends and fellow female soldiers?  And female CIVILIANS in Iraq?  You don't think that most men can determine who in their unit is almost surely gay within a week without those soliders "putting the make on them in the heat of combat?"

This isn't Will and Grace, Ken.  We need all of the recruits we can get.  Morale drops a lot more from the fatigue of not having enough men than it does from proximity to something slightly out of a few bigots' comfort zones. 

No, most people have contact with conservatives.  Its the conservatives who shut out all other viewpoints, cover their ears, and yell LALALA as loud as they can, just so the liberal demonic antichrist satanist atheist words won't corrupt their perfect little brains.

Nobody wants gays discriminated against, not even conservatives. But we can't have flamboyant gay guys trying to put the make on fellow Marines in the heat of combat. There would be an obvious negative effect on moral.

so if the gay guys screw up, they're dead.  they know that.  They know that if they get distracted by the cute guy sitting next to them in the jeep, they might die.  And you said that nobody wants gays discriminated against, but you just made a vast generalization that all gay guys are like the effeminate ones you see in movies, and by making that generalization, you are discriminating against gays.

its about time to stop forcing our soldiers to hide. Let them be free to serve like anyone else.

If you thought it through, dont ask dont tell means there are already gays showering with other marines, army, navy, special forces and have been all along.

You think if don't ask don't tell where repealed tomorrow that the gays in the armed service would  suddenly hold a gay pride parade?

Your homophobia is not a good enough reason. Cite a credible study that shows gays serving openly would be detrimental to unit cohesivenes in the long run.

My cousin was in Iraq, he said when it comes right down to it. No one cares who is gay and who isn't because everyone has to look out for each other to keep them alive.

When did you serve again? You seem to know what an overwhelming majority want.

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011