07/19/2009 01:27:00 AM EST

What is the difference between treason and sedition?

posted by Robrob

Normal people know, if you don't like the way an election turned out you wait four years and try again. Of course that doesn't count if you are a Republican.

Treason:

Synonyms:
1. Treason, sedition mean disloyalty or treachery to one's country or its government. Treason is any attempt to overthrow the government or impair the well-being of a state to which one owes allegiance; the crime of giving aid or comfort to the enemies of one's government. Sedition is any act, writing, speech, etc., directed unlawfully against state authority, the government, or constitution, or calculated to bring it into contempt or to incite others to hostility, ill will or disaffection; it does not amount to treason and therefore is not a capital offense. 2. See disloyalty.

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RUSH (07/02/09): So I went to bed last night safe and confident in the news that the Pentagon said that the (North Koreans) were not going to launch any missiles, that they'd gotten cold feet.  I wake up this morning, I find out the (North Koreans) have lit off four of them.  So then I said, "Well, I wonder what Obama's going to do?" He'll probably call Hugo Chavez to find out what to do about it except Hugo is in the hills marshaling forces to invade Hondurans, and if we had any good luck, Hondurans would send some people here and help us get our government back. 

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IOKIYR (5.00 / 0)
Please remember the "I don't think he was really serious" comment. It'll be brought up the next time you get wrapped around the axle over some LW pundit's comment.

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 07/20/2009 12:58:56 AM EST

Slushy Limpballs is behind the wave of history (none / 0)
and about to be swamped with a deluge of facts.
Honduras Zelaya won't accept coup leaders in unity gov: aide
Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:20pm EDT
TEGUCIGALPA (Reuters) - Deposed Honduran President Manuel Zelaya will not accept any leaders of the June 28 coup that ousted him forming part of an eventual unity government, a close adviser said on Saturday in an apparent step back from an earlier comment by Zelaya.

"The president can talk about a reconciliation government, but not one that includes people who took part in the coup," Allan Fajardo, a close adviser accompanying Zelaya in Managua told Reuters by telephone. "There can be no coupmongers."

He said Zelaya also agreed with the proposal that he be reinstated to serve out the rest of his term, but that other proposals by Costa Rican President Oscar Arias were still subject to negotiation.

Zelaya said earlier on Saturday he agreed with a proposal by mediator Costa Rica to form a national unity government, telling Radio Globo, "We agree with it, but only as long as all the powers of the state are integrated into it."

by gatekeeper50 on 07/19/2009 02:02:22 AM EST

Don't be naive. (none / 0)
When I look at that poster I know exactly which buttons Limbaugh wants to push with his audience: "Obama is one of them dirty, pot-smoking, up to no good negroes who are like apes who like bananas!"

To cite the fat one himself: "You know it! I know it!"

by eborujion on 07/19/2009 03:39:51 AM EST

Maybe you're too young to get the reference... (4.00 / 2)
But "banana republic" was a fairly popular term in the last half of the last century used to describe several Central and South American countries that were unstable, typically ruled by wanna-be dictators and corrupt, but which were wholly owned and operated subsidiaries of United Fruit Company or Standard Fruit Company or one of their competitors.




Jeezus.  "...the last half of the last century...".  Suddenly I feel very old.

by EveningStarNM on 07/19/2009 04:31:25 AM EST

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Yeah, (none / 1)
I am a little too young to have that reference experienced first hand (I have seen "Bananas" by Woody Allen, though ;). That is exactly why I believe that he plays with the racial double-entendre. I may be mistaken, maybe everyone over 40-50 gets it right away but I think many people (especially less politically savvy) don't know or don't remember where the term originated.

by eborujion on 07/19/2009 04:47:45 AM EST

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Really? (none / 0)
"And based on actions of the Obama's Administration in persecuting previous political leadership"

Words have meanings. Who exactly has the Obama administration "persecuted" from previous political leadership?

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 07/19/2009 01:47:03 PM EST

One more time (none / 0)
"And based on actions of the Obama's Administration in persecuting previous political leadership"

Who exactly has the Obama administration "persecuted" from previous political leadership?

Not some imagined future events.

Extra credit if you can explain how legal prosecution enforcing the laws of our nation = persecution.

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 07/20/2009 12:56:51 AM EST

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Hyperbole presented as fact (none / 0)
"In Revolutionary France and 16th century England and Pol Pot's Cambodia and Pinochet's Chile and Stalin's Soviet Union and Mao's China, the prosecutors were always engaged in enforcing the laws of the nation."

Are you seriously comparing the laws of the United States of America to those of Cambodia, Chile, USSR and China?

"You call it prosecution, but I call it persecution. It's political payback, designed to invalidate and delegitimize the previous government and political opposition."

Speaking of Whitewater, it should be simple enough to have an impartial commission decide all of this one way or another. The RWnuts spent eight years and $60 million hounding Clinton and there was no talk of Banana Republics then. If no laws were broken I don't see why you're so scared of having your day in court. 

"That's the kind of stuff that goes on in banana republics..."

Saying it doesn't make it so. We are a nation of laws. If laws were violated then action should be taken. If no laws were violated then no action will be taken. It's as simple as that.

Why do you hate the American legal system so much?

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 07/20/2009 01:59:16 AM EST

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