False Flag 9/11 doesn't add up...

For a couple of years now I have been vaguely following the conspiracy theories about 9/11. I’m sure there are people on this website who think that the US Government didn’t tell the (whole) truth about what happened. I haven’t done an intensive study on this but there are just some things that seem to rule out the possibilities of the US being involved.

I have to say that I’m not at all a partisan of Bush’s politics and all the shit he brought down on the world. I am Swiss I don’t truly trust the US Government, let alone the CIA, NSA and all the others playing in the dark, but I can’t accuse them of orchestrating the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001.
One person that I think has interesting thoughts about it is Jesse Ventura. Contrary to what his “opponents” say, he never said that he believed the US was involved. He just asked questions about it. And I’m not a former frogman so I don’t know anything about explosives and demolition (yet…), but it seems to me that his questions and arguments were perfectly reasonable. He talked about the US Government lying to its people (Gulf of Tonkin incident), preplaced explosives, that Special Forces were able to do the job and so forth…

 

But here’s where I think that all this doesn't add up.

If there were preplaced explosives in the buildings, wouldn’t the US Government have made it public and just blame Al Qaeda? I mean if you can Hijack four airliners and fly them into buildings you surely can “play the UPS guy”, like Ventura said, and blow the towers up from the inside. Or they could’ve paid ex-Spec Ops mercenaries to do it, especially with the money Al Qaeda has.
If the US was involved, or let’s just say that Al Qaeda didn’t act alone, how come no terrorist talked about it? Imagine what that would do to the USA, if someone inside Al Qaeda came up with the statement, or even a proof, that a Western power was involved, or even the Bush administration itself. That would be a disaster for the American people. I could even imagine an Iran-like uprising.
And isn’t that what the Islamist terrorists want? Bad things for the infidel and the Great Satan?

 

What I think is that this was just a huge failure, that the US intelligence services didn't do their jobs well.
But what I could imagine is that they let it happen. Some people, maybe high up in the Bush Administration, maybe not, just played dumb and let the terrorists do their work, so they could start this whole mess in the Middle East.

 

I'm really interested in all the theories but there are so many out there... You don't know where to start, and usually it's just the thoughts of some Alex Jones-type pseudo-rebel who just wants attention.
And this is the truly annoying thing about conspiracy theories. The will always stay - theories.

 

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by DiracCone on 07/02/2009 05:41:19 PM EST

I'm too late...

by bot1oa on 07/02/2009 06:08:52 PM EST

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I hadn't seen it before.  Much appreciated.

by Spencer on 07/02/2009 06:14:31 PM EST

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But... with all the evidence up to 911 they could've done more to prevent it.  Not saying that 911 could have been prevented but they could've tried.

There are so many conspiracy theories out and a lot of them can be disproven very easily.  But I do believe the administration used 911 to further their imperialist manifest destiny ways on other countries.

by Erauprcwa on 07/02/2009 06:14:41 PM EST

If the gov had any idea about it and wanted to use 911 for Iraq, or planned it for Iraq then they forgot one thing, they forgot to actuall link it to Iraq.
Cheney had to bust his nuts with shitty links for over a year to reach his goal and it still wasnt certain he would get there.

.... unless thats just what they wanted us to think!!!
aaaaahh crap! i gotta get my tin foil hat back out of the drawer :(

by Maverick on 07/03/2009 07:19:58 AM EST

 bot1oa - I think we see just about eye to eye on this. I tend to think, after all that i have seen, that the Government played some kind of roll in 9/11. It is such a disgrace. What i think is really strange is that public figures, libral or otherwise are so quick to dismiss any proof that the Government is envolved. They actually make me think I am a crazy radical for even entertaining the notion that the U.S. Govt had a role. I have always thought of myself as a moderate and level headed thinker. I don't act out and i am NOT a radical. It's just that all the evidence that I have reviewed, piled up on me and even if some of it was just speculation well...... ...where there is smoke there is fire. I still love my Country but our Government, especially under Bush, was so corrupt that we really needed to clean house. I don't believe the Obama admin. would take part in something like this, however, I do think his greed and self-righteousness will an equal amount of damage to this country. Anyone who believes the Government had nothing to do with 9/11 or at the very least new about it is just plain ignorant and either cannot think for themselves OR is to lazy to do some research.  -Elove

by elove20202003 on 07/03/2009 10:58:00 AM EST

What would be the purpose of the Gov killing over 3000 people?

A conservative believes nothing should be done for the first time

by C D on 07/03/2009 12:40:39 PM EST

I think that the collapse of the WTC did more harm to the US than some other reason for a war in the middle east would have. If they wanted an excuse they would just have targeted a smaller military instalation, kinda like in the Gulf of Tonkin.

by bot1oa on 07/03/2009 04:02:37 PM EST

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they could have easily arranged for an off-course passenger jet to be shot down by Iraq, you would have had 90% of Americans calling to nuke bagdad the next day.

911 was flogged hard for a purpose but there were 1000 easier and quicker ways to get any middle east war started.

by Maverick on 07/04/2009 07:59:47 AM EST

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If nothing else, any half way competent conspiracy would have packed at least a few Iraqis on those planes.

"People who boast of ancestry often have little else to sustain them." LL

by Robrob on 07/04/2009 10:04:08 PM EST

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''If the US was involved, or let’s just say that Al Qaeda didn’t act alone, how come no terrorist talked about it?''

 I don't think anyone would believe any terrorist that said anything about America being involved. Also IF the US was invovled it would make them and Al Qaeda partners of sorts and there would obviousley have been and agreement that no one would say anything about American involvement.

 But as I said that's a pretty big 'if'. It's quite unbelievable really.

by stevewatto on 07/04/2009 09:03:43 AM EST

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