Osama in Somalia (On the Meaning of "Hello Osama")

Why Osama bin Laden may be in Somalia?


The better question for The Young Turks is: what does says about Dick Cheney?  Of Course, everyone who responded ignored that entirely.  I wish I were suprised.


Earlier this week I published an article in the Young Turks forum titled,
The CNN news feed (I think this is what happened) picked up the article and published it here, on a site dedicated to Somali news: 
http://www.somalida.net/ind ex.php?option=com_content&a mp;a mp;view=article&id=786: somalia-why-is-osama-bin-la din-likely-in-somalia&c atid=1:wararka&Itemid=1 10    &nb sp; 
Evidently they didn't think I was as crazy as many of you did.  While many of you were busy telling me I had no evidence and laughing at me, calling me a liar about something as inane as where I attended college, suggesting I have no friends ... and every other kind of verbal abuse one could think of, and some I never could have thought of before I began.
While many of you were busying yourselves in this manner, these people, some of whose lives depend on figuring out the reality behind news stories, and "theories" such as mine, were actually reading the links I left, and my words, and taking the time to think about the logic of what I had written.
I did not send this to them.  They came and found it.  And published it on this site without asking me:

How many of you that were insisting on me being a liar and insane person have had your posts picked up by and international news service and published by people half way around the world?  I'm guessing zero, other than Cenk.  Why do you think that is?

"Hello Osama" is a personal message of mine to the world's most famous terrorist, a song actually.  Pretty soon I will publish a demo of it somewhere on the Internet.  The song also begins to describe something of a vision, a HOPE, I have for the future, similar to what John Lennon sang about in his song "Imagine."
Part of that vision is a world that begins to understand that we truly do all worship the same God, even if we worship no God at all.  I believe this not as some "progressive" sentiment pandering to some half-baked notion of diversity, but as a reality, as an absolute truth.  I believe that Love is One God, and God is One Love.
The following is an article published in Soldier of Fortune, a magazine dedicated to this exact community (I am posting it in full so maybe a few of you will actually read it).  I wonder why they would think an article about Bin Laden's direct message to the people of the Somali community was important?  Maybe because it is important?  I will paste it here because I doubt many of you would read it otherwise, and to make life more convenient for all the people who aren't Young Turks who may read it, including of course, lil' Osama himself.
Do you think its crazy that Osama Bin Laden would read such a thing?  Whether you do or not is irrelevant, because as I stated before, most of the people who will read this don't have accounts with the "Young Turks Forum"  I'm the first person (as far as I know) to publish this theory on the Internet.  If I'm right, which from what I am hearing in emails and Facebook messages from Somali People all over the world, seems increasingly likely, you don't think he might want to take a look at the original post?  No, of course not, why would he want to read something like that?  (Hello, Osama.  How are you today?) 
SOLDIER OF FORTUNE, Editor's Post,
New Bin Laden Tape Calls for Somali President’s Ouster 
"An audio recording attributed to al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden denounces Somalia’s new president, and urges Somalis to topple him.

The recording appeared Thursday on Web sites used by al-Qaida-linked militant groups.

The speaker says Somalis should fight and dethrone President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, who the recording claims is “paid by the enemies” of al-Qaida’s cause.

The 11.5 minute message was entitled “Fight On, Champions of Somalia” and included a picture of bin Laden with the audio.

President Sheikh Sharif is a moderate Islamist elected by lawmakers in January, after a peace deal between the previous government and Islamist opposition groups.

The new government plans to make Islamic law the basis of Somalia’s legal system, in an effort to appease hardline Islamists still fighting the government.

Militant groups like al-Shabab control most of southern and central Somalia, after more than two years of fighting in the Horn of Africa country.

Al-Shabab has also rejected the new president, and continues to fight government forces and African Union peacekeepers.

The government controls only portions of the capital, Mogadishu.

Somalia has not had a stable central government since 1991, when a coup toppled President Mohamed Siad Barre.


An audio recording attributed to al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden denounces Somalia’s new president, and urges Somalis to topple him.

The recording appeared Thursday on Web sites used by al-Qaida-linked militant groups.

The speaker says Somalis should fight and dethrone President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, who the recording claims is “paid by the enemies” of al-Qaida’s cause.

The 11.5 minute message was entitled “Fight On, Champions of Somalia” and included a picture of bin Laden with the audio.

President Sheikh Sharif is a moderate Islamist elected by lawmakers in January, after a peace deal between the previous government and Islamist opposition groups.

The new government plans to make Islamic law the basis of Somalia’s legal system, in an effort to appease hardline Islamists still fighting the government.

Militant groups like al-Shabab control most of southern and central Somalia, after more than two years of fighting in the Horn of Africa country.

Al-Shabab has also rejected the new president, and continues to fight government forces and African Union peacekeepers.

The government controls only portions of the capital, Mogadishu.

Somalia has not had a stable central government since 1991, when a coup toppled President Mohamed Siad Barre."



In case you don't trust Soldier Of Fortune, here is an article about the same subject from TIME magazine.
http://www.time.com/time/wo rld/article/0,8599,1886615, 00.html
Is this proof Osama is operating out of Somalia? Not even close.
Is it evidence that a rumor exists in the mercenary community that he might be (which is what I stated earlier), a community of people whose professional reputations depend on keeping their mouths shut about rumors like this?  Of course it is.
Why would the EDITOR of Soldier of Fortune go out of his way to post such information?
Why would Osama bin Laden direct a message like this specifically at Al-Qaeda in Somalia, rather than Al-Qaeda everywhere?  Why would he be interested in influencing fighters in Somalia?
Why would Bin Laden want the new Somali government destabilized?
Where he could he send a message like this from?  The answer, of course, is anywhere with a computer connection, including Somalia.
Thank you Young Turks!  Your endless stream of insults raised the google rating on my posts.  While you were mocking me for having no "evidence" others were  This helped me get the message out to the people it was actually directed at.  Great Job!
Have a Beautiful Day,
MAXIMUS OCULUS
aka Gregory K. Nelson
P.S.  This isn't exactly hurting my "shameless promotion" cause either!  :)

http://maximusoculus.worpre ss.com




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you're full of yourself...

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 07/21/2009 07:08:55 PM EST


...in your previous thread, you could figure out how to post a link but in this one your main link is broken?

Oh, and a tip: Just because a site has an AD for CNN, that doesn't mean that a "CNN feed" picked anything up and delivered it to a site. More likely, some other puff chested blockhead found your post and linked to it, despite your lack of anything even closely approaching a rational argument, or citations, or proof.

Odds are much better that someone who has an agenda surfed until he found a Somali news site and submitted a "tip" on an article at TYT. Maybe even someone with the initials "GKN" - maybe.

You are a prime example of what is BAD about getting information from the net. You post crap in one place, it gets posted somewhere else, and then you reference it as "proof" you make sense.

Try it at Free Republic - they LIKE doing stuff like that. People who come here are too smart to fall for that shit.

Quit wasting the world's time. Go write songs to sing to despots. Buy a website and put all this nonsense on it and stop riding the coattails of people who know what the fuck they're talking about.

OR - offer some real proof that your theory holds water...

by MedfordTim on 07/21/2009 07:29:46 PM EST

Go write songs to sing to despots.

Better yet, go write songs for girls. They tend to respond better to that kind of thing than people like Osama bin Laden do.

by OneHitKill on 07/21/2009 08:54:24 PM EST

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until you're ready to go join the brave soldiers in the Army on a REAL search for Bin Laden, please stop desecrating their service with your "pseudo"search from your desktop.  It's really offensive to anyone who supports American soldiers.  SERIOUSLY...this isn't cute anymore.

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 07/21/2009 07:37:13 PM EST

You smug little fuck.  I only provide information you can search on your desktop so you guys can search it.  So you will search it.  So I can get this message out so our soldiers won't die in vain searching for people in the wrong place. What do you think I'm going to give you?  Confidential information?
This shit keeps popping up in the Somali press, fortunately for the world they edit comments out from the likes of you.
Why I still let people as pathetic and ignorant as you piss me off is hard to say. One of my weaknesses.
One of my other weaknesses is spelling.  Do I spellcheck this stuff.  No.  Too much time. Spelling errors may make me look bad, but I am not here to look good.

I suppose these Somalians are posting this stuff for no reason at all:
http://www.somaliweyn.org/p ages/news/July_09/17July12. html

you see those people in the cartoon?  that's a depiction of dead human beings with Bin Laden behind them urging on the slaughter.  Do you think the person in somalia put that image together with the article for no reason?  I for one would like to know what the reaon is.

What about this?  Is this youtube post there for no reason too?  I don't yet know what the relavence is, because I can't understand the language, but I'm pretty sure whoever put this up had a reason for putting them together. I'm pretty sure that reason is more important than anything you did, or said, or even thought about today.

http://www.bartamaha.com/?p =7560

http://www.youtube.com/watc h?v=6nB78ehY82k&eurl=ht tp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ebartamaha% 2Ecom%2F%3Fp%3D7560&fea ture=player_embedded

These Somalians found this and put it up to try to get people to listen to them.  So yeah, I'm a selfish bastard.  I put my own name on a post that threatens the most dangerous group of human beings in the world to try and give the my theory some legitimacy, a theory that if looked into by the right people, could save millions of lives.  If its wrong, I lose nothing. But I think its right.  WHat should I do, shut up about it because you don't think I have enough evidence?  I guess that's what you might do, but I am not you, and thank God for that!

I published the theory first, in English at least, as far as I can tell.  I didn't just think it.  I had the balls to write it in public, and sign my own name next to it. 

You know why?  Because I'm smart, really, really smart.  Smart enough to get into Swarthmore and feel like most of the people there weren't all that bright.  Smart enough to figure things out for myself without having to read it or learn it from someone a rather sick society deams an expert. 

And I've got balls.  Big, huge, balls cast in stainless steel.  Balls big enough to think for myself.  Balls big enough to keep pounding away on an issue regardless of what some obscure internet forum thinks of me. 

Fine.  You got me. So selfish. I'd like my book to sell when it comes out.  I like money.  I like fame. 

What the fuck does that have to do with anything other than you and how you feel when you read what I write, because you don't have the balls or the brains to do what I do?

You think these Somali people are posting this stuff for my benefit?

For Christ's Sake, don't you get it?  I put this stuff in this forum rather than a million others because I knew some of you would be infuriated by someone with the balls to do it, and that would help me get the message out.  The one thing Progressives (especially the ones who spend all there times uselessly typing away at each other in Forums like this) seem to hate most is confidence.  So I write with confidence and most of the responses basically amount to:  We don't like you because you have confidence and we don't.

But again.  Thanks. Thanks for your help.  Do you have anything whatsoever to write to the contrary concerning the matter at hand or do you want to finally shut the fuck up now? (that goes for Eveningstar and Medford Tim too)

My guess is you will keep squacking away about me.  A person you don't know, rather than anything I say, which will be ignored and laughed at.

So thanks, in advance again, for whatever nonsense will come out of your pathetic little mouths next.

And guess what?  I am going to keep posting here, on this topic, and others, for as long as I damn well please.

Then someday I am going to take all of your pathetic little comments and use them to help show how stupid some people can be.  You put them in public, in response to my posts.  Now, you smug little fucks, they are mine to do with what I please.

Clearly people in East Africa, whose lives matter just as much as yours or mine are reading some of it.  They're not just reading it, they are using it.

And I hope if they read this they will hear me say:  They're are still some of us on this side of the ocean with the courage to help you.  We aren't giving up, certainly not because of some childish little monkeys in a chat room don't like us.

Someone wrote in response to one of my earlier posts that this might be writing practice for me.  Of course its fucking writng practice!  What is it for you guys?  I try shit out here, try out ideas, tones, modes of expression.  I AM TRYING TO LEARN.

One thing I have learned is that none of you responding to this post, despite a clear hatred of me, have an ounce of EVIDENCE to the contrary.  None.  Zero.  Nothing.

This just gives me MORE confidence to go on and publish somewhere else.

Everytime you insult me I am going to feel better.  Because people like you are the kind of people who cut down people that are more intelligent, more brave, more capable than they are.  They do it the most when others are at their best, and its as good an indication as any that one is doing the right thing.


So thanks for the encouragement!
Keep em comin'!

-  MAXIMUS OCULUS

by gregoryknelson on 07/22/2009 03:13:54 AM EST

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MAXIMUS OCULUS is a character in my novel.  A very, very angry, very, very, truthful character (HELLO PUBLISHERS)

by gregoryknelson on 07/22/2009 03:24:19 AM EST

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That wasn't my point:  your "search" for bin laden is a delusional paranoid schizophrenic linking of NON facts, to the point where you're using YOUR own article as proof of your theory.  You don't even spell "bin Laden" right...Now, if you're just some pussy sitting behind his computer screen, and there are navy seals, marines, army platoons, and all kinds of predator drones searching for Bin Laden unsuccessfully, then WHY THE FUCK would you know better than the American intelligence community?  You're a fucking self-important ass-hole who wants the glory of winning a war without going to fight.  Call me smug all you want, but I'm not the one desecrating the soldiers' service.  It's funny to me how delusional you are.  You think YOUR " theories" are so important to "east africans" and they're using the information...for what?  What the FUCK are they using the information for?  NOTHING...by the way, your writing sounds like a person's first time out of their parents house.  It's easy to tell that your parents sheltered you, and once you got your freedom, you thought you were in a movie.  Guess what, nobody cares about your fucking life experiences, and NOBODY wants to read them or learn anything from your boring fucking life.  For christ sake, there's 2 wars going on, and you're "fighting" from your fucking computer.  You're a fucking pussy, and for your claims about your big testicles, you sure don't seem to want to actually JOIN the fight to find Osama.  The ONLY reason I felt compelled to write anything in the first place, is because I am getting SO SICK of people like you in the world who think their opinion is SO high based on nothing.  You're a fucking prick. and even if you're right you're still not REALLY doing anything about it.  Why don't you fucking put down your keyboard and go to the recruitment center, and tell them "I know where Osama is".  Better yet, why don't you hop on a fucking flight to the Pentagon, schedule a meeting with the HIGHEST general you can find, and tell that person "I know where Osama is".  And by the way who says Osama bin Laden isn't dead, and his "voice" is being used to threaten people with his former prestige...

No "evidence" huh?

http://www.huffingtonpost.c om/2009/04/27/osama-bin-lad en-is-dead-a_n_191960.html 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ news/worldnews/asia/pakista n/5232505/Pakistans-Preside nt-says-Osama-bin-Laden-cou ld-be-dead.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/vide o/watch/?id=2035777n

http://www.naharnet.com/dom ino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/getstor y?openform&8B3084E5326B 3695C22575A60027BD00

Seriously Greg...you're a pseudo-patriot, and you only "fight" for recognition, and not love of country...

You try to woo girls by writing to them on TYT...how fucking lame are you...

You sign your letters in Latin, and you can't even speak latin well(by your own admission)

WOW A LIBERAL ARTS COLLEGE!!!  That must be an Ivy league school...?  Oh wait, it's not?  You mean swarthmore isn't Harvard?  So why does dickhead over here keep waving around the name "Swarthmore" like we're supposed to be impressed?

Maybe you should continue the search for Bin Laden up your ass...you might relocate your brain there...

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 07/22/2009 11:33:07 AM EST

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ROBIN:  What is this guy so ANGRY about?  Isn't he just PROVING your point?  Doesn't he REALIZE it?

BATMAN:  I don't know young ROBIN, I just don't know.  Some questions even the crime computer can't answer.  If he wants to help us out, we can't stop him.

by gregoryknelson on 07/22/2009 12:28:18 PM EST

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I'm not ANGRY...I'm just RIGHT...


Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 07/22/2009 01:30:51 PM EST

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You can't even respond directly to me you pussy...

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 07/22/2009 01:37:57 PM EST

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