02/02/2010 10:02:59 AM EST

Yet another development in the sex doll world...

posted by freakygirlhere

It's all very well having a freaky looking sex doll who talks and has life-like orgasms, but how often have you been going about your daily life and found yourself thinking 'by golly gee whizz, I wish my sex doll had a "motor in her chest [that] pumps heated air through a tube that winds through the robot's body".

I frequently find myself in this situation, but now there is the product:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TEC H/02/01/sex.robot/index.htm l?hpt=T2

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I'd love to hear Cenk and Ana's thoughts on yet another freakishly ugly sex doll (I'm thinking Sarah Jessica Parker was their inspiration), and that for once this kind of story isn't from Germany or Japan.

 As a Psychologgy student I've studied in depth the various approaches to relationships, whether it be from an evolutionary perspective or that we are attracted to certain things as a desire to conform to social/cultural norms. That being said, it's hard for me to understand not only why people feel aroused by a talking sex doll in need of a paper bag on her head, but also why people are willing to spend $7,000 on an object that won't appease our human instinct to reproduce and have romantic relationships.

 It is our biological and evolutionary need to pass on our genetic material to healthy offspring, which explains why most men wish to stay with the child to ensure it is cared for, so how is it that sex dolls can be used as a replacement for a long-term relationship. I think back to the case of the 45 year old Japanese man with the room full of sex dolls. If he truly desired to one day have a relationship with another human being and possibly produce children, he sure turned off the majority of possible partners by investing so much money on his silicone orgy.

 

So I pose the question: Can sex dolls, talking or otherwise, really be a long-term replacement for human romance and companionship?

 

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<Snap!> (none / 0)
A freakygirl talking about sex dolls.  It's interesting how quickly my priorities can change.  I had other plans for the next few minutes, but those plans suddenly seem unimportant.  Reading this article is now my top priority.

by EveningStarNM on 02/02/2010 10:09:56 AM EST

Two Different Issues (none / 0)

"So I pose the question: Can sex dolls, talking or otherwise, really be a long-term replacement for human romance and companionship?"

 

I believe the root of many problems we have as a society is that we act like romance and companionship are synonymous with sexual fulfillment.  They are not.  People will always need conversation, interaction, support, commiseration.  But I think that sexual needs, while related, have a component that is apart from those things, and as much as we try to tell ourselves otherwise, most people cannot have their sexual needs satisfied by a single partner in the long term, and the statistics on cheating (by men AND women) prove it. We need to stop lying to ourselves about our sexual needs as human beings, so people don't pursue fulfilling those needs in the dishonest and emotionally destructive way that is now the norm in our society.

So of course, a sex doll can never replace the EMOTIONAL and INTELLECTUAL component of a relationship.  That would require us to develop true artificial intelligence, which I think is centuries away, if it is even possible.  But can sex dolls develop to where they can reasonably approximate purely the physical sensation of sex with a human partner and function to fulfill some of those needs and desires? Definitely maybe!

But what we really need to do as a society is separate sexual needs from relationship needs and understand that while there is a connection between the two, if we insist on trying to make them the same, most people will be sexually unfulfilled. 

by mdavidboyd on 02/02/2010 12:24:40 PM EST

Warm Fuzzies vs. Cold Pricklies (none / 0)
People will settle for whatever they think they can get in order to stay alive.  It's people's misperceptions about themselves and their place in the world -- misperceptions that are promoted by the mainstream media for commercial purposes -- that have led to the invention of sex dolls.  If homely Henry and Henrietta and gorgeous George and Georgette fully understood that real beauty has little to do with appearance, we wouldn't have these problems.

Also, it would be nice if it rained more out here in the desert.

by EveningStarNM on 02/02/2010 01:00:48 PM EST

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You hit it on the Doll! (none / 0)
On a related note, yesterday I was listening to Antonia Crane/adult industry lady on Marc Maron's WTF podcast and she pointed out how her services were not meant to replace the wife/girlfriend at home, but was meant to "enhance" them.  That's all I have to say for now, and if TYT needs a tester for this doll, I'll step up and stick my d*ck in the pudding but we're going to have to something about her hair and down syndrome looking face (and I don't mean to disrespect people w/down syndrome).

by rev24 on 02/02/2010 01:29:35 PM EST

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Good response (none / 0)

Great response there, really broaden out my original internal debate.

 I wonder if, to the market for sex dolls, they consider how owning a sex doll presents themselves to any potential partners though. Do you think they picture the moment when they bring home a stranger to rock the casbah, and said partner walks into a room to find a silicone doll looking back?

 However I think with the development of talking sex dolls marketed to have conversations and personalities such as this one, some men are considering sex dolls as a human parter replacement. Afterall the idea is that these dolls provide companship both sexually and conversationally.

Blog about my experiences as a technical theatre student and practitioner: http://standbystageright.bl ogspot.com/

by freakygirlhere on 02/02/2010 02:11:39 PM EST

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Great post. (none / 0)
I would have written the same but much less concise and more long-winded, so thx for saving me the trouble ;).

We need to stop lying to ourselves about our sexual needs as human beings, so people don't pursue fulfilling those needs in the dishonest and emotionally destructive way that is now the norm in our society.
That is IMHO the strongest and most important point.

In addition: I don't see how a sex doll is different from old-school sex toys like vibrators etc. or even from "free-style" masturbation... It is what we humans do: we invent stuff to facilitate/enrich the experience of what we do anyway.

So, sexually, I don't see anything wrong with these dolls, other than they being IMO way too expensive and unhandy ;).

For the replacement of social interactions, I have mixed feelings about that. OTOH, the dolls could help chronically shy persons to develop social skills. OTOH, the perceived interaction might lead to the development of false images of real people, and the "user" can further degenerate their social abilities.

But, in an age where much of the exchange between people is 140 characters or less, and you can have thousands of "friends" online, I don't know if those dolls can really negatively impact the dwindling human interactions and the rising social isolation.

That would require us to develop true artificial intelligence, which I think is centuries away, if it is even possible.

I slightly disagree. I think it is possible and it will be only a matter of a couple decades for the first AIs! Maybe even within the next 10 years we see a machine pass a Turing Test. Of course only the devil is able to build a machine with a soul, so that is definitely impossible ;).

by eborujion on 02/02/2010 02:55:35 PM EST

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The expense of a doll (none / 0)
Jack juice and a pleasant memory costs maybe five cents -- unless you can make enough spit.  The trick is in getting the memories.  Sex toys should be a spice, not the main course, but if you've become convinced by all those television ads featuring stunningly attractive models that you're undesireable, you might believe that other people have the same opinion about you and not even try to get those memories.  In that case, those toys are all you've got.

by EveningStarNM on 02/02/2010 04:07:01 PM EST

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Me me me me (none / 0)
I know why men buy these things,

As Anna would say "They are pervy wankers"

Some men will put their penis anywhere, I remember TYT doing a story about a guy who used a park bench and got it stuck!

On a side note I think she it looks more like Catherine tate....

by 0f course on 02/02/2010 12:34:06 PM EST

oops (none / 0)
wrong tag :(

by 0f course on 02/02/2010 12:34:59 PM EST

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Pervy Wankers (none / 0)
Your analysis is precise and accurate.

by EveningStarNM on 02/02/2010 12:48:01 PM EST

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Catherine Tate (none / 0)
I also posted this on IMDB, where someone else likened it to Catherine Tate and as I said on there 'men actually want to sleep with the doll'.

Blog about my experiences as a technical theatre student and practitioner: http://standbystageright.bl ogspot.com/

by freakygirlhere on 02/02/2010 02:03:06 PM EST

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hmmmm (none / 0)
Let's hope it doesn't come pre-programmed with her personality....

by 0f course on 02/02/2010 03:34:15 PM EST

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Well actually... (none / 0)

It does come with several personalities to choose from, so I'm sure foul-mouthed chav (aka. white-trash to the Yanks and bogan to the Aussies) is an option - if you are so inclined...

 "Innit, blud."

Blog about my experiences as a technical theatre student and practitioner: http://standbystageright.bl ogspot.com/

by freakygirlhere on 02/02/2010 04:12:59 PM EST

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Love that! (none / 0)
Especially when she recites a sonette from Shakespeare in which he tell of his admiration for a black girl.
We all know that he was refering to Martha Jones, don't we?

"The first thing Fascists usually try to do is silencing the opposition."

by opposition on 02/04/2010 05:56:52 AM EST

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That slack-jawed look on her face is priceless (none / 0)

So I pose the question: Can sex dolls, talking or otherwise, really be a long-term replacement for human romance and companionship?

Well, if the men who would consider such devices suitable replacements for a real woman were each issued one of these when they reached adulthood they would disappear in just a couple of generations.   Do you suppose they make the vaginas removable so they can be washed?

The world is a strange place, but that makes it really fun to watch.

Hey, that would make a good signature file.

 

by bfaul on 02/02/2010 02:36:14 PM EST

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True, but you gotta love the pervy wankers and the sex industry in a whole. Without them tech inovation would of been much slower.

They decided and ended the betamax vs VHS war, they made dvd's mainstream and pushed internet technology to the limit and helped it evolve into what it is today.

They are no throwing support behind 3D technology and we have television companies launching 3D tv's this year. If 3D porn catches on it will promote the sales of the tvs and make it mainstream.

So to all those pervs, keep on wanking... your helping to build America! :P

by Tony227 on 02/02/2010 04:43:23 PM EST

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I'm certainly not above stealing it. (none / 0)

by EveningStarNM on 02/02/2010 05:01:36 PM EST

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Hey, thanks (none / 0)
I haven't been quoted before.

by bfaul on 02/03/2010 11:04:49 AM EST

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I had no choice. (none / 0)
It's the smartest thing I've heard this week.

by EveningStarNM on 02/03/2010 12:59:59 PM EST

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For some men, this is perfect.... (none / 0)
because unfortunately there are the guys out there who prefer to have sex with women who are completely unconscious or dead.  Think of all the men who slip real women roofies and then rape them while they're immobilized. Or the men who have to kill their object of attraction before raping them.  Or the necrophiliacs.

For those men, these lifelike dolls are the answer... plus you don't risk going to prison if you get caught.

Sell a lifelike sex doll, perhaps save some poor woman from having to sleep with the pervert (willingly or unwillingly).  I say, great! Whatever floats their boat and keeps them off the streets!

by ilovecenk99 on 02/02/2010 07:50:01 PM EST

Come to think of it... (none / 0)
they should make little underage boy dolls and girl dolls for the pedophiles...

by ilovecenk99 on 02/02/2010 07:51:13 PM EST

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An Erroneous Stretch (none / 0)
So are you saying that people who have sex with sexdolls are perves/more likely to be rapists?  I know that's taking it to another level than what you said, but if you are insinuating this, I'd have to completely disagree and I'll save my breath before refuting that insane view.

For the record, I have never had sex with a sex doll but how could you not be tempted to cop a feel of this Salma mannequin:

by rev24 on 02/02/2010 08:19:05 PM EST

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It looks more like (none / 0)

Jennifer Connelly to me.

Either way, I still want to "accidentally" trip and fall into it.  Over and over and over again.

by Spencer on 02/02/2010 08:25:17 PM EST

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I suppose it's a good thing... (none / 0)
...that most men aren't afraid to admit that they're pervy wankers.  But sometimes, one wishes that they would be more inclined to keep it to themselves.  I'm going to be stuck with that image in my brain for the rest of the day.

by EveningStarNM on 02/03/2010 01:05:14 PM EST

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Look, I'm the first one to admit... (none / 0)
that I have used a vibrator... however, I really don't need that vibrator to be attached to a big hairy doll with BO and hot air being pumped throughout it... You know.. I can use my imagination for all that...

I think what she was alluding to is that these dolls are getting pretty elaborate... I mean, why does there have to be so much effort put into something you're basically jacking off with... it kind of weirds us out...

by ilovecenk99 on 02/02/2010 10:39:27 PM EST

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Gee! (none / 0)
I've sometimes incorporated a particular female odor into my fantasies, but I'd never considered that my BO might be a part of some woman's fantasy before...




No!  I'm really not full of myself!  What makes you think that?


by EveningStarNM on 02/03/2010 01:10:40 PM EST

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One Frog's Breath to complete the potion (none / 0)
Oh and Eveningstar, I'd like to add doll breath to the list as well.  I know it's nasty but sometimes I remember back in the day when I was really f'd up and I'd see one hot stripper after another, something real like the certain smell or even the breath of a stripper made it more real and therefore more fulfilling.  Come on don't judge - I just want to create the perfect doll to help a pervy wanker out!

by rev24 on 02/03/2010 03:21:25 PM EST

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Then you've got to do it all the way: (none / 0)
The doll's hair needs to stink of cigarette smoke, and it's got to ask you to buy it a drink.

I found every strip joint in Atlanta when I spent a few months doing stage lighting there when I was 20.  But a couple of the girls I met weren't interested in my money, and the memories that they gave me filled my fantasies for years afterwards.  I'll never judge anyone who likes strippers, as long as he treats them right.

by EveningStarNM on 02/03/2010 11:45:24 PM EST

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Why was the pic deleted? (none / 0)

by Spencer on 02/03/2010 02:50:34 PM EST

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Dammit Dave! (none / 0)
I think Mr. Koller was offended by the idea of you denigrating Salma by taking a spill on her mannequin.  Don't worry I have backup to meet all your Salma doll needs.

by rev24 on 02/03/2010 03:15:56 PM EST

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