03/16/2010 02:45:27 AM EST
Niqab in Quebec seen from the inside
posted by Piid
I'm probably one of the only French Canadian listeners of the show and so far, I've found it to be one of the only shows where the hosts could use their brain to give an opinion, instead of relying on other sources and copy-paste an opinion to save time. I don't know if it is because they stepped out of America, but on this subject, they've got it pretty much wrong from A to Z.
First, they presented the subject without mentioning so many important details, that it seems as if they took all their informations from a French bashing columnist in the Globe and Mail or the Toronto Star. Here are some "slightly" important facts that were forgotten.
- Before taking the course, she didn't have any problem meeting an administrative representative without her niqab because the representative was a woman. She also gave her a photo of her without her niqab.
- the muslim woman than insisted to wear her niqab during class because there were men (3 out of 20) in the class. The college allowed this.
- During the class, there were some pronouciation exercise where students are required to show their lips. As stupid as this might sound (and I think it is), it is a rule that every other students bend to. Knowing that sending someone home over such a stupidity would be ridiculous, the college agreed that, for this particular exercise, the woman could get away from the rest of the class and do the exercise alone with the teacher.The niqab woman agreed to this in the beginning, but as time went by, she started refusing removing her niqab in private until she said she wouldn't remove it anymore.
- She then had to make an oral presentation in front of the class. Not wanting to speak in front of other men, she refused. Then again, the school decided to accomodate her and she was allowed to do her oral presentation at the back of the class while facing the wall.
- After 6 months she... wait what? they negociated with her over 6 months? Because after watching TYT, I thought as soon as she entered the building she got kicked out at the speed of light by intollerant Frenchmen. Anyway after 6 months, she was requested to do a social exercise where people had to speak with each other. Knowing that she would again demand, not to speak with men, she was allowed to speak only with women, but apparently, that was not enough. She demanded to the teacher to remove the 3 men from the class, or to move them in a way that they wouldn't be facing her niqab.
- The 3 men then posted complaints to the school and told them that for 6 months, all that BS had been slowing their integration process. The school then asked the government for an authorisation to send the woman home which they were granted. The government then sended the woman a letter explaining her the situation and saying that if she wished, she could still continue the course online.
- She then tried to enroll for the same course again, but she was told that, if she was not planning to remove her niqab, the school wouldn't go over all that crap again to achieve the same result.
That's pretty much the whole true story and, from my perspective, the school and the government doesn't appear as racist or controlling freaks. The niqab woman has a degree and is in process of becoming a pharmacist in Quebec. What is she expecting? that she will be able to not interact at all with men while being a pharmacist here? So far, this woman costed the Quebecker tax payers over 100k in health insurance, social security and other immigration administrative costs. All that the Quebec government is saying to this woman is : We offer you free (she doesn't pay taxes yet) health care, one of the best social security in the world and we are allowing you to pursue your old profession on our soil. In exchange you learn French by removing your niqab and by going to your classes or if you don't want, you can still learn it at home. I'm sure that's a deal a lot of people from her original country would be dying to strike. And while we're at it, in Egypt, the country she's from the government banned the niqab from university classrooms during exams.
In fact, this event is just the last part of a long story that's being going on for some years now. Here's a quick list of the accomodations Quebec granted immigrants since 2006 :
- A Hassidic Jew demanded to a female police officer who just pulled him over, that he would not speak to a police officer unless he was a male. The police officer was requested by her superior to obbey to this demand.
- A young Sikh demanded to bring is Kirpah (A ceremonial knife) into classrooms. Court ruled the school had to let him bring his knife into class while other kids with skulls on their shirt were being kicked out
- A jew community demanded the windows facing the street of the local YWCA to be tinted so they wouldn't see women training while walking in the streets. Government accepted and paid for it. The list goes on and on, I think there are 5 or 6 other cases like these ones.
But then again, English Canadians judge us like racists because we try to protect our culture, and Americans juste copy-paste their opinions because they can't understand the arguments of the other side. I wonder which other places in the world let their cops be treated differently according to their gender or let kids bring knives in school because otherwise, it would be against their freedom of religion. But hey! Quebeckers are obviously targeting specific groups of people because, 1 out of 100 times, they don't give them absolutely everything that they ask for.
I just hope that TYT does not cover every local news they cover like this one, because the way they presented this was as much acurate as Sarah Palin's Book.