Would Public Campaign Financing Work?

I know--nothing else works unless this works.  So it "better work."  And it isn't going to happen anyway, so it is moot as to whether it would work.  And I'm only defining "work" as "elect actual representatives of the People," and different people probably have different definitions of what that means.  So this question has a lot of built-in responses before I even ask it. 

If somehow, in a parallel universe, we were to have the networks give a specific amount of free time to candidates, and the candidates could otherwise not receive any explicit or implied contribution from a corporate lobbyist (and we were somehow able to enforce this), and we could also stop the train from Congress directly into Lobbying positions upon electoral defeat or retirement, would we achieve an uncorrupted Congress?

I think we would not.  Politics is still politics, and the lying, hypocrisy and emotional manipulation of the voters would still take place during elections and during terms.  Even if Tom Coburn is not getting paid vast amounts to delay and kill Democratic legislation, he would still presumably try to do so on ideological or political grounds.  The Right would remain thoroughly ignorant, extremist, intractable and underhanded, because that is who they are--they'd make a life out of despising Liberalism for _free_ if it came to that.  Just for the love of winning every argument with inferior debating points.  And the Democrats would remain weak, trying to dryly parse nuance and ponder hard choices to an electorate that is conditioned to want the delicious empty calories that Republican salesmanship would offer.  In addition, most of the electorate would still be ignorant of the issues, depending on a worthless media that doesn't tell them anything close to the truth, and localized advocacy groups (church groups, unions, their poker night friends) would still be filling their head with fear and misinformation and misdirected anger.

Wouldn't corporations just find other means to influence outcomes, if they couldn't pour money into a campaign or lobby a candidate?  If Boeing could convince me through their regular advertising that the US was in grave, immediate danger and that the only way to stop our imminent destruction was to dramatically increase the war using the magnificent, fail-safe line of Boeing products, they wouldn't need to funnel a penny of money into a campaign--I would vote for whichever candidate was more on board with "saving America through Boeing".  Anyone who chose to campaign for increasing the war could do so simply because it would get him MORE VOTES by playing on fear than on level-headedness.  Boeing successfully influences the mindset of the electorate, that candidate wins and supports legislation favoring Boeing, and no public campaign financing laws are put into any peril.

We aren't just dealing with people who are corrupted by the system.  They are also a bunch of power-hungry, unscrupulous, reactionary, decrepit old men (with maybe 20% exceptions).  Surely the Democrats could find a way to still pathetically squander their majorities, and surely Republicans could find a way to still piss all over the citizenry in an attempt to assuage the super-rich.  What we need is a more informed, more serious populace, and a few candidates that actually can think independently under pressure.  Fixing the system, as impossible as that itself sounds, is not even enough...we have to change the underlying CULTURE that votes based largely on puffs of frivolous colored smoke. 

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we have to effect change. The problem is that our first amendment will prohibit this type of change. So a constitutional amendment would be required. In todays political climate, it is not possible.

by finerbiner on 03/02/2010 10:17:12 AM EST

You need two things: You need good candidates, and you need to vote. The rest will follow.

Public campaing financing is necessary, but it has to be the second step. The first step is to elect the representatives who will enact it. They need to win their party's primaries (the two-party-system IMO is unbreakable). Then, people need to turn out to vote. As it is now, voter turnout in the US is ridiculously low. No wonder that democracy isn't working properly.

To achieve this, objective mass media would be enormously helpful, but unfortunately, they are 98% on the corporations' side. Because of this, activism will be the most important tool to make people participate in democracy. So far, there has only been right-wing activism (tea parties) that has really been visible to a lot of people. The left and center need to get off their butts and give new life to democracy. Stop waiting for change to come.

by OldGerman on 03/02/2010 11:19:15 AM EST

The trick is to tip the balance in favor of those who are not corrupt.

Right now, there is very little effort to shame politicians who are taking money to vote against the interests of the people.  The reason that no Democrats respond to Republicans derision of government is that most Democrats are being paid to restrict governmental protections of consumers.

But with public campaign financing, as well as the other important reforms that you mentioned, there will be more voices in Congress supporting legislation that actually is good for our country, and that's really all we need.  Those people who do actually represent the People's interests will be a much stronger contrast to the corrupt officials who dominate our government now, and that contrast will make evident to the millions upon millions of people who aren't really paying attention to what's going on what the problem is and how to fix it.

by EveningStarNM on 03/02/2010 01:46:29 PM EST

Yes.  I agree with everything you say--if we had more non-corrupt politicians running things, they would have a greater percentage of influence against the corrupt politicians, and that would be good for the country.  Obviously.

But you make the leap and say "with public campaign financing, as well as the other important reforms that you mentioned, there will be more voices in Congress supporting legislation that actually is good for our country."

Why would this be?  Why would Campaign Finance Reform give us more representational politicians?  The premise of my post is that it probably still would not--the same slick Conservative politicians would still be able to convince the public to vote for them, and they would still enact terrible policies, because they believe in the policies from an ideological perspective, or they think that supporting those policies will get them more votes.  Ergo, their views aren't always exclusively tied to corporate campaign donations;  they are sometimes tied to good old fashioned Conservative delusions/anti-intellectual ism/xenophobia/paranoia/hat red of the government, and the money that rolls in in support of those positions is just an unrelated bonus.  You can take the money out of the policy proposals, but you can't take the stupidity out.

Nor could you take the weakness out of the Democrats by just evening the playing field.  If it is in their nature to cave on everything and to market their agenda terribly, and it isn't just that they are bought but they are also just spineless losers anyway, we will continue to have the _same_ politics in Washington, because being a doormat doesn't require a price.

Campaign Finance Reform and Lobbyist Reform would at least set the conditions for a possible change in Washington--if and only if Senators wanted it.  It surely couldn't hurt.  But if you had 100 people who were set in their old behavioral ways, and then they were replaced by 100 new people who were set in _their_ behavioral ways, we won't get any better representation, or any more legislation that is good for the country--regardless of any external changes.

by Milltycoon on 03/03/2010 12:25:35 AM EST

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Okay, here's why I think public campaign financing, along with the other reforms that you mentioned, would lead to genuine reform:

Right now, politicians cater to the lobbyists and their corporate employers because they are allowed to benefit from them.  They need the largess of those corrupting influences for two reasons:

(1) To maintain their seats in Congress, they have to spend much of their time collecting as much money in bri--, er, "contributions", as they can.

(2) Once they've gotten a taste of power and wealth while being in Congress, they don't want to let go of if when they leave.  In fact, they'd like to be able to get even richer when they leave office.  If they acquiesce to the demands and desires of wealthy interests while they're in office, they can be assured of much more than a golden parachute once they leave office.

Public campaign financing eliminates the first corrupting influence.  It is no longer in either an incumbent's nor a newcomer's interests to cater to the demands of the lobbyists because their opponents will have matching funds no matter what.  In fact, it will be easier to not work for the lobbyists.

Prohibiting someone from going to work in an industry which they formerly regulated while in office also would remove a corrupting influence.

Over all, candidates and Congressmen would recognize that their constituents no longer would be the wealthy and their lobbyist surrogates.  Their constituents would be, after all, the voters.  Yes, the officeholders who lie now still would be able to lie, but fewer of their peers wold have an interest in ignoring those lies.  And the motivation to lie would be substantially reduced.

Sure, it's not perfect, and there are a lot of what-ifs and caveats and conditions, but I'm convinced that public campaign financing, as well as the other reforms that go with it, would bring a dramatic change to the way our government works.

It would start working more for us, since our voices would be stronger that than those of the corporations who own our government today.

by EveningStarNM on 03/03/2010 03:26:18 AM EST

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