Join Us In Person And Ask Goldman to Give it Back! (w/ Petition & Facebook Page)

Sometimes when you explain to people that some of the most complicated financial transactions in the country were just side bets, they don't really believe you. They think it's an oversimplification. We couldn't have wrecked the global economy because some people made side bets. These are sophisticated bankers with sophisticated financial instruments, so it must be more complicated than that. It isn't. They bet one another, whoever lost got paid by the American taxpayer.

To be fair, sometimes they had the money to pay off one another without government bailouts, but not often. That's because they were largely betting with money they never had. AIG is the perfect example. Their executives made hundreds of millions of dollars in bonuses from the early wins in these bets, but then stuck the taxpayers with a $182 billion bill when they lost.

A credit default swap is when you bet that a certain asset is going to default. If you're wrong, then you have to pay a little bit. If you're right, you get paid a ton. So, AIG collected a lot of little winnings when they bet that mortgage backed securities would not go into default. But then when they did go into default, they lost big.

So, what does all of this have to do with us? Well, Hank Paulson, Tim Geithner and Ben Bernanke in their infinite wisdom decided that we should pay AIG's bets for them. Did they go back and take the money the AIG executives got for their earlier so-called winnings? No, of course not. Did they even inquire into whether these bets were on actual assets that the other parties were on the hook for? Apparently not.

Let me explain that more. If you bought a package of mortgage backed securities and wanted to insure it in case anything went wrong, that's a fairly normal derivative. That basically works as insurance for your security. So, if we paid off people who actually owned those securities, it still wouldn't be right in my opinion but it would be a lot more understandable. The argument would be that it would destabilize the economy too much if all of the people holding the mortgages all of sudden lost most of their value.

But what if they didn't hold the mortgages, they just bet on them? That's like the difference between bailing out the Dallas Cowboys to help the local Dallas economy versus bailing out bookies who bet too much on the last Cowboys game. The latter is what we did with AIG. We paid off people's bets for almost no reason.

I explain all of this because it's very important that you understand that when we paid $62 billion to AIG "counterparties," we weren't saving the economy, we were paying off the bookies. The money we gave them didn't go toward saving one house or one mortgage or even a package of mortgages or even investors who bought the packages of mortgages. It went to paying off people who made side bets on the mortgages (and even sometimes put down bets on a made up collection of mortgages that didn't even exist in the real world called "synthetic" collateralized debt obligations).

This is insanity. When you understand what really happened, you have one natural reaction - I want my money back. It's like we paid Donald Trump for a bet he made against Steve Wynn. Why did we do that? I don't give a damn if Harrah's or Caesar's Casino won. Why did you pay them with my money?

So, we're now starting a campaign to get our money back. I'd love to get the whole $62 billion paid out to the AIG counterparties (let alone the whole $182 billion we've sunk into AIG all together). But, we're going to start out nice and modest. We'd like to have Goldman Sachs pay us our $12.9 billion back that they got from AIG.

That's all taxpayer money. All of it went to Goldman for some silly bet they made with a buffoonish company that never had the money in the first place. As "sophisticated investors" they should have realized that AIG never really had the cash to pay them.

It's like making a million dollar bet with your deadbeat friend. Do you really expect to get paid when he doesn't have ten bucks to his name? How sophisticated can you be if you don't even realize that your counterparties are broke? So, sad day for you, you made a bet with the wrong guy. That's capitalism, baby. Go home, lick your wounds.  

Except as we all know, that's not how it worked out. Instead the former CEO of Goldman Sachs, Hank Paulson decided to give them the money anyway, from the United States Treasury. Paulson had made $700 million dollars earlier when he made the same kind of deals as the head of Goldman before he became our Treasury Secretary. Not much bias there, right?

So, other than this enormous conflict of interest, why target just Goldman Sachs? Many reasons. They were one of the largest beneficiaries of this "backdoor bailout" from AIG. They were the ones who set up many of the securities in the first place. In fact, they sold $23 billion worth of this junk to AIG (they're lucky we're not asking for all of that back).They set them to blow and then bet against them. And they said they didn't need the money away. Great, then we'll take it back please.

Yes, they actually said they didn't need the taxpayers to pay them. They said many times on the record that they were "properly hedged" and that they could have gotten paid off by other companies and didn't need AIG to pay them. Fantastic! Out with it. We're going to be generous and not charge much interest, so we'll take a check for $13 billion made to the United States Treasury.

I'm not kidding. We are going to start applying pressure to both Goldman and the Treasury Department to return that money to its rightful owners, the American taxpayer. Of course, we need your help. We want everyone across the political spectrum to put pressure on the Treasury Department to get that money back and for Goldman to give it back.

I invite conservatives, libertarians and tea party activists to join us as well. Don't you want your money back? Weren't you angry about the bailouts? Don't you have a sense that the people in Washington and Wall Street are screwing you? Well, this is how they're doing it. Time to stand up and fight. Tell Goldman not to tread on you.

To show you how nonpartisan this is, the first protest will be aimed at one of the one guys most responsible for this atrocious decision - Tim Geithner. He is our Treasury Secretary and should be fighting for us and not for the bankers. He can fix his original mistake (he was at the New York Fed when they decided to give these backdoor bailouts at a hundred cents on the dollar when no one thought they were worth anywhere near that much) and get our money back from Goldman.

I have a question for the tea party participants, have you ever wondered why you've never protested the one guy in the Obama administration most responsible for the bailouts and the economy? That's the Treasury Secretary. And the reason you've never protested him is because the corporate front groups who organize your protests love Geithner and want to look out for him. Isn't it time you corrected your mistake, too?

Come join us. Let's do a real protest of the people who caused this mess in the first place. And let's get our damn money back.

Join us on Monday, June 7th at noon in front of the Treasury building to demand our $13 billion back from Goldman Sachs. First job is to get Geithner to recognize that he should have never given that particular money to that particular bank for that particular transaction. Or to come out and justify his actions. Let him step out, greet us and tell us why it was such a smart idea to pay off AIG's side bets with Goldman. I'll be looking forward to that.

And I'll be looking forward to seeing you at the protest, no matter what your politics are. You can RSVP by going to the Facebook page for this event. See you there.

Join the Protest Here UPDATE: Progressive Change Campaign Committee has joined our effort now and we are doing a joint petition to get our money back. Please sign the petition here so your voice can be heard on this even if you can't make it out to the DC protest. Everyone in the country should be able to agree to this. I was just on the Dylan Ratigan program on MSNBC and even the conservative on the panel agreed. Sign the petition and help get our money back.

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they only care to make a fuss about deficits they never cared about under Bush. They only care about taxes, even though the taxes for middle income families is the lowest in decades. They only care about illiegal immigrants but not enough to protest the employers that exploit them at below legal wages.

The Tea Party does not care about Wall Street, BP oil spills, Goldman Sachs, or unregulated cheaters and rapists of exploitation capitalism, which resembles fascism.

They do not care because they know that if they howl long enough and loud enough the media will not question them or expose them for what they really are.. just a bunch of racists, anti-democracy, anti-capitalist fascist. 

by wowisdabomb on 05/24/2010 09:53:39 AM EST

About time you riled up the army Cenk, you guys got a lot more power you think. Especially if you get some reasonable people to join you, im sure there's a lot of companies that would like to stand on the side of the people as well, as you always say, its not the small-average busyness that profits from those things, they must also be pissed about it.

 I wonder if there is some way outside viewers can directly contribute to the offensive.

 

"The best lack all conviction, while the worst are filled with passionate intensity."Yeats

by kkdragonlord on 05/24/2010 10:49:48 AM EST

Spread the Word Turks!

 Get it out there in as much places as you can.

Facebook, Orkut, MMOs, Farmville, heck, wherever you can go on the web to get as much visibility as possible.

"The best lack all conviction, while the worst are filled with passionate intensity."Yeats

by kkdragonlord on 05/24/2010 05:29:17 PM EST

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Agreed, i bet there are some great soundbytes from Gladiator you could use...

Throw in a dinner with Ana for a randomly selected lucky guy and i will fly to the US to go on the protest =)

"The best lack all conviction, while the worst are filled with passionate intensity."Yeats

by kkdragonlord on 05/24/2010 11:10:11 PM EST

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Btw, listening to the way you got disillusioned by Obama on the show i had an idea.

How about writing an open letter for Obama, citing all the stuff where his stance was weak, or bait an switch, etc... showing the deep disappointment on each of the failures of his administration, giving credit to the positive things, but overall expressing what a let down it was in regards to the promises he made.

Im pretty sure there would be a lot of signatures on it really fast, and that should get his attention and could even get through to him somehow, so it will at least weigh down on his conscience until the end of his term.

Who knows, maybe after that he decides to forgo the idea of making a career in politics and decides to actually get on in fixing the problems no matter what it takes.

"The best lack all conviction, while the worst are filled with passionate intensity."Yeats

by kkdragonlord on 05/25/2010 12:27:13 PM EST

I'm too far away to make it.  It's been a while since I've been to a good protest, and I'll be thinking about all of you on that day. 

We need to increase the anger in this country and aim it in the right direction.

As for a chant..... uh.....  "Money... it's a hit.... don't give me that self-regulation bu.....lll shit!"

A wire in the fire room

by blueheartinaredstate on 05/25/2010 01:16:46 PM EST



In the 1950's, George Mikan dominated the NBA by revolutionizing the center position. People mistakenly believe there were no seven footers back then, there were, maybe not as many as in today's game, but Mikan was not a seven footer. Traditionally, in the 1940's many center's played a high post game where they ran the offense with passes to driving guards for easy lay-ups. To be sure individual centers might have played in the low post, but it was a much more team oriented game then, and the coach had more control. Think of Coach Knight as the template for every coach back then, not just control but absolute control. It wasn't that Mikan lacked passing skills, it was more that he had the driving skills of a guard in addition to the big body of a center, he was physical but also had if not finesse, then touch. They eventually had to change the rules of the game to keep him from dominating.

Bill Russell was coming of age in San Fransisco. He would make Mikan's influence on the league look like ripples in a puddle compared to tsunami waves. The college game bans dunking. Let's be clear, this was about racism. It will eventually lead to a subculture known as Rucker's Court. Rucker's Court was and is a basketball court in Harlem. If you go there to play, be prepared to bring game. And to wait. You prolly won't get on the court. Dr. J was a regular there in the 1970's before signing with the ABA's NJ All American's (which later moved to Long Island before moving back to NJ as the Nets- part of a deal in which Mr. Erving's contract was sold to the Philadelphia 76'ers).

The Celtic's dominated the game in the 1960's based upon Red Aurbach's defensive style personified by Russell. The combination of the Celtic's defense, Russell's dominance inside, the Mikan rules and the lack of players who could dunk (sure there were dunkers in the 60's including Russell and Wilt and Robinson and Jabaar, a whole host of others) based on the NCAA's frowning on the practice (which creates a false incentive system structure where players are not rewarded for being able to dunk) leads to a stifled system in which the driving lanes are clogged.

Instituting the 3-point line would therefore open up the driving lanes by spreading out the game by rewarding teams more for hitting outside shots. This however, while it opens up the lanes as it was intended, leads to the unintended consequence of slowing down the game into halfcourt offenses. So, they institute the shot clock to speed the game up.

This leads to - and so on and so on. Eventually you get to a situation where you need to either scrap all the rules and start over (maybe with a new sport altogether like BASEketball- I mean basketball itself was simply made up, by Dr. James Naismith simply to give hoodlums a chance to play inside in the winter when the ground was too hard for football and kids were getting hurt- the "football" then was round) or you need to make some other new rule to counter the problem the last rule change led to. The most recent rule changes have involved adding defensive 5 seconds (similar to the traditional 3 second rule in the paint), changing the amount of time you have to get the ball to half court (6 seconds from 10) and adding a zone under the basket (the half circle that looks like a frown) where defensive players can't get a charge call (unless the play originates inside the semi-circle, and the defensive player is in position already, in which case bizarrely they can then even be in the air at the time of the foul) and removing the arcane and technical illegal defense (which they then turned around and re-instated but in a simpler form, with less stringency on the weakside defense).

Rule changes have effects in real-time, competing players, systems and teams are reacting the the new rules, refs are having a tough time adjusting to the changes, but it all eventually leads to a new homeostasis in which things return to a new balance. The Congress and SEC are like the rules committee and the refs and the players are like the stock brokers and the teams like the big banks.

You could widen the lane to the odd looking Rhombus shape of the international game, you could raise the basket to 11 or 12 feet, you could enlarge the entire court, shorten the shot clock, shorten the half court clock, lengthen or shorten the game, ban dunking, have topless cheerleaders, use glow in the dark balls and play in the dark (with glow in the dark jerseys and shorts, lot more revenue from apparel sales to boot) take the game outside (for a few games a year), play on ice, add "icing" off-sides rules, replace the tip-off with five minutes of mixed martial arts (Shaq vs. Dwight?) or "re-institute Glass Steagall" to try and revert to before Pandora's Box was opened.

You can't go back to 1934. You can't ban dunking, shrink the lane, get rid of the 3 seconds rule, you can't remove the shot clock or the 3 point line. You can't pretend that George Mikan, Bill Russell and Dr. J did not exist. Wall Street is amazing. These guys can't convince themselves of anything. They can call Mike Milken brilliant, they can ignore the past. But even they cannot ignore reality.

No one is talking about the fact that the other end of the AIG bets, the SCDO's compromised of credit default swaps based on tranches of AAA and AA rated mortgage bundles which were in fact 80 to 90 percent junk, meaning that that hedge would pay off huge once the market tanked in 2008, far too big for AIG to pay off to Goldman Sachs, the other end, the housing bonds themselves were heavily invested in by Germans. You can't ignore that AIG and Goldman, from the deregulation and the housing bubble and subprime, leading to the 2008 crisis leads directly to our current woes with Germany and the Euro and the Piigs.

Has the last domino fallen? Where did it start? Does it matter? Who is culpable? Clinton, Sumner, Geithner, Obama? Bush, Bernanke, Paulson, Greenspan? All of the above?

Take all the basketball analogy with a grain of salt. On ICE? Steve Nash might be from Canada and look like a hockey player (hey the nose looks good on you kid) but I don't even think Rondo knows how to play (I just can't figure out why they keep saying, "Damn, B look like he on skates.")

Whatever you do, don't click this link (studies show you're more likely if you shouldn't)

by tiggerporn on 05/27/2010 08:56:38 PM EST

Whatever you do, don't click this link (studies show you're more likely if you shouldn't)

by tiggerporn on 05/27/2010 09:10:42 PM EST

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got a short version?

"The best lack all conviction, while the worst are filled with passionate intensity."Yeats

by kkdragonlord on 05/28/2010 08:27:58 AM EST

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 for some fun... if we can still find the funny.. you know?  it's brutal out there.   anyway, enjoy the ride down.  we're all going together.   

 

“A Federal Reserve Crap$hoot” online game

http://www.baitandswitchtv. com/games1.html

 

by fictionorfact on 05/28/2010 02:49:03 AM EST

If I still lived on the east coast of the U.S. I would definitely be there but unfortunately I'm in Germany now and don't have the money to fly all the way back for the protest (in large part, ironically, due to the financial collapse!)

But hell yeah for launching a protest against the actual people RESPONSIBLE for this mess to combat the Tea Party narrative that Americans are only mad at Obama and the government and that they demand less regulation and oversight.  Hopefully this protest will get at least 1% as much coverage as the Tea Party nonsense.

BTW, I finally went and bought The Big Short after you mentioned it the nine millionth time.  Michael Lewis ought to pay you for all the advertising you gave him.

by kemstone on 05/30/2010 04:30:22 AM EST

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