Why We Have a Deficit UPDATE!

I have often pondered this issue.

I have read the various explanations that blame the Democrats or the Republicans.

After today, I am certain I finally have an understanding of the problem.

 

 

 


"Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., tells radio talker Laura Ingraham that 1.6 million attended Saturday's Glenn Beck rally in Washington. She said she got the estimate from a National Park Service source." 9-1-10

Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), who spoke at a separate event at the Washington Monument after the rally, suggested there were at least one million.  8-30-10

Glenn Beck said today that his "Restoring Honor" rally attracted "a minimum of 500,000 8-29-10

Beck told the crowd he had heard the turnout was between 300,000 and 500,000. 8-28-10

Palin, one of the speakers at the event, said she believed there were more than 100,000 people there; 8-28-10

Beck, predicted that at least 100,000 people would show up 8-27-10

AirPhotosLive.com gave its estimate a margin of error of 9,000, meaning between 78,000 and 96,000 people attended the rally. The photos used to make the estimate were taken at noon Saturday, which is when the company estimated was the rally's high point. 8-29-10

For the record, Michele, the Park Service does not do crowd estimates.

Apparently conservatives can't count, cant estimate and can't fact check the news or each other when they lie.

Now for the facts:

This link shows roughly 400 photos the company took at the rally,awful lot of green in between the people.  My estimate is 120k, tops.

The fact is that the right wants to spin this rally to show overwhelming support for their policies.

The fact is, what ever the outcome of the November election,it will have very little to do with Glen Beck and his pseudo-religious clap trap and everything to do with GOP obstructionism to prolong the recovery and the inability of Democratic candidates to capitalize on their true motives.

Professor Stephen Doig of Arizona State University, a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and crowd estimate expert, came up with figures:

Doig estimated that there were 80,000 people at the "Restoring Honor" rally, while AirPhotosLive.com estimated that there were 87,000 people, a statistically insignificant different since the margin of error was 9,000. CBS News elected to use the higher estimate.

In a blog post, Doig, writing from Portugal, noted that he estimated the crowd at Mr. Obama's inauguration at roughly 800,000 - a number critics assailed as too low.

"Crowd counting, particularly of political events, always is controversial," he wrote. "The organizers of the event inevitably hype their crowd estimate -- often grossly -- to demonstrate the popularity of their cause, and opponents inevitably underestimate to fit their own agenda.

Because of the wild pre-inauguration predictions of how many would attend in person -- up to 5 million! -- my reality-based estimate was ignored by many left-wing commentators and embraced by those on the right."

Facts are simple things. You can claim just about anything and spin it to your advantage.


 

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It's only a 20 fold difference. You're just being picky.

"Terrorism is the war for the poor and powerless. War is the terrorism for the rich and powerful."

by JamesStevensDigArt on 09/01/2010 11:32:07 PM EST

Very post-modernist of them.

by SalemP on 09/02/2010 12:33:42 AM EST

"eyeballing it"? If its good enough for tax policy, its good enough for crowd estimates. Please, with your aerial photographs.

by hazmat on 09/02/2010 01:24:23 AM EST

the actual number was 87 thousand... and trying to quote national park service numbers wont matter  as they stopped making estimates  in 1997

Bachman had it up at 1 million  then by the end of the day she had it up to 1.5 million

Ever notice the more insane right you are the more you lie?

but lets say there where 300 thousand

Still more people attended the million man march
The LGBT march
The anti war protests
and many many more

Wanna see what a million plus really looks like? Refer to the Obama inaugeration

oh and geese flying over is not a sign from God

Im not worried about a bunch of old white McCain/bush voters pissed off that a black man is in the white house

as the tea party takes over whats left of the regressive party  and it goes farther off the cliff of sanity

the better it is for "us"  :)

Hey did you buy your Goldline gold?


by Chinese Democracy on 09/02/2010 10:27:04 AM EST

I forgot  to mention.. I was at a marijuana legalization rally that had more people there than Beck.

I found it necessary to basically reiterate mrfreds post as you ignored it and went on some tirade about hog Limbaugh

his numbers have proven to be inflated you chose to ignore it... and mrfreds original point.

silly fake cowboy person

You do really poorly when you jump in other peoples threads..worse than when you start your own

At least when you start a thread of your own.. you are on the offense and everyone responding has to go on defense..

I dont think they get that

I do

heh


by Chinese Democracy on 09/02/2010 02:36:25 PM EST

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...on whether the geese are letting loose with "poop-bombs" as they fly over the crowd, expressing their displeasure at their airways being polluted by the crap the Beckians were sending aloft?

Glenn Beck: The man who is the living answer to the question, "How many heads can you fit on a pin?"

by MedfordTim on 09/02/2010 07:56:45 PM EST

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You're the one who has experience with nuclear reactors and materials and such.   If this much stupid collects in one spot is there a danger of an explosion of idiocy when the stupidity reaches critical mass?  Can the resultant radioactivity melt people's brains?   If so what kind of a radius are we talking?

by bfaul on 09/02/2010 11:10:22 AM EST

The rally was near water, when the criticality point was reached the YouTube38 "fissile" material would simply walk into the reflecting pool thinking they could walk on the water, sink, and therefore moderate the reaction or at the very least , piss off the ducks.

by MRFred on 09/02/2010 02:01:58 PM EST

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